This is the self-help group or support group for people with
dyschondrosteosis ( DCS )and/or Madelung Wrist Deformity ( MWD ). That is a
permanent broken wrist appearance for the Madelung and foreshortened arms or
legs in dyschondrosteosis. It came about because of some research I did on a
very obscure medical condition. One person in my family was noticeably affected
but as no one else apparently affected it was not considered to be genetic.
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Many years ago (1980s) I tried to do some medical research on another condition
but was defeated as I have no medical knowledge. I spent some time at the
Boldrewood Medical Library facility in Southampton but got nowhere really. The
problem is you need a bit of medical knowledge to even start. This has all
changed with the internet. In effect there is ,via the medical search engines
such as Medline and OMIM ,what I call a reverse medical dictionary. By this I
mean from starting with non medical or marginal medical terms or descriptions
you can get to precise medical terminology; the reverse of a medical dictionary.
The condition of interest recently, had been diagnosed but decades ago ,when
this noticeably affected person was seen by a Harley St ,London, specialist. The
diagnosis was misheard/ mis-remembered by one person as Mendel something and by
someone else as Mendelsohn something and by someone else as something rickets.
In December 1998 putting mendel* as a keyword in Medline got nowhere. The
condition affects the ulna and radius bones so putting keywords in Medline and
OMIM of radius AND ulna AND rickets returned a lot of hits. Reading all the
returned abstracts in conjunction with a standard medical dictionary (to
understand and distinguish distal from proximal and supination from pronation
etc) two medium level medical terms looked promising. These were radio-ulnar
(affecting both bones) and dysplasia (disordered development ). Putting these
two words back in the system returned a few dozen abstracts. About half of the
original articles referred to by these abstracts were on the shelves of the
medical library at Southampton General Hospital. I didn't even know this library
existed till now nor whether it is exceptional in allowing access to the
responsible general public. A few related, highly specific terms emerged in
these articles and abstracts namely; dyschondrosteosis,mesomelia ( form of semi
dwarfism) and Madelung (probably the original misheard diagnosis). Madelung
wrist deformity leads to a mechanically poor joint between wrist and ulna
because the wrist bones are asymmetric and cause a bunching on the ulna side of
the wrist throwing the head of the ulna forwards or sometimes more rarely
reverseward so it looks like a ganglion at the end of the ulna (there are
alternative explanations for the development of MWD). In effect it leads to a
permanent partial dislocation (subluxation) of the wrist. Putting these three
terms in OMIM and Medline and checking the articles another week in the medical
library confirmed that this was indeed the condition and that it was genetic and
very rare, affecting only about 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 800,000 of the general
population.The clincher was reference to the Madelung wrist deformity which no
one in my family were aware of but with hindsight is now obvious with everyone
in different generations. This internet procedure is probably applicable to
other technical disciplines say geology or law if there is a suitable thematic
search engine for the relevant technical journals .
I would be interested in making contact with anyone familiar with the
linked medical conditions :-dyschondrosteosis,mesomelic dwarfism and Madelung
wrist deformity all a sub-set of the general group of skeletal dysplasias. I
could find medical references on the net but nothing about the more sociological
aspects of these conditions so have placed this page into the internet realm.
On the male side there can be serious family problems concerning
"questionable" paternity; how could a father 6 foot or so have a son 5 foot or
a father of 5 foot 2 have a son who is 6 foot 2, a sort of perceived cuckoo in the nest syndrome.
This genetic quirk can happen spontaneously or where there is offspring of a
consanguineous relationship i.e. father/daughter or brother/sister or cousins. This is the
biblical "sins of the father" territory. It can cause family schisms where some
of the family is aware of the family secret, others suspect and some have no idea
at all, the common thread is that it is a total taboo and no one will discuss it
at all within or outside the family. Some people just wish this syndrome would
just disappear if they ignore it and others wish to find out what is going on.
Obviously the former will not find their way to this file. It has to be remembered
that the proportion of children adopted who are of incestuous origin is high
and consequently proportion of adoptees with conditions like MWD or DCS is also higher
than background levels. 6 of the people contacting this group have MWD or DCS stemming
from people who were adopted, beyond that is unknown, just informed speculation.
Higher than the general level of adoption within the population.
Illegitamacy is
difficult enough to handle within a family but very few families would be able to
knowingly raise a child of incestuous origin - it is one taboo too far, they
are likely to be placed for adoption.
So far, seven
people out of the people who have contacted me, had not got a medical diagnosis before
finding this file - two put "wrist deformity" and someone else "gymnasts wrist deformity " as a keyword/phrase in a search engine.
All the others have had the tight medical keywords of madelung or "leri weill"
or dyschondrosteosis to put in search engines. Another potential problem can be
that some people would have been put on a course of growth hormone treatment
after being diagnosed. In the early days this was derived from cadavers with
,unknowingly, possible contamination by prions or whatever leading to a "Sword
of Damocles" of CJD hanging over them.
It was only in the 1970s it would appear that the researchers put a genetic
link to these ,at first sight, unrelated effects. Other medical terms for
dyschondrosteosis or similar looking or related conditions are/were manus
valga, carpus curvus, congenital dislocation of the wrist, late rickets of the
wrist, progressive subluxation of the wrist, progressive idiopathic curvature of
the radius, adolescent club-hand, carpo-cyphose, carpo-cyfose,carpocyphose, cubitolisthesis, manus
furca, gabelhand, radius brevior , dyschondroplasia of the inferior radial
epiphysis, osteochondrosteosis, adolescent rickets, carpal dysmorphosis, carpal
kyphosis, carpoficiosis, dyschondrosis, radius brevior, radius parvus, Leri Weill
Syndrome, DCO, LWS, LWD, radiovolar bayonet deformity, chondrosteodysplasia, MD Madelung Deformity , DCS
(dyschondrosteosis). It is my conjecture that MWD and DCS result from some sort
of genetically controlled switch. Not a case of lack of growth hormone but
something switching off the uptake in the chondrite areas of some bones.
Resulting in a lack of growth in that area of one end of that particular bone
but not the other ,similarly either end of the matching bone pair eg Ulna/Radius
and Tibia /Fibula may grow/not grow causing curving of the longer bone while
growing. Some relevant keywords for researching Madelung are lucency,
pyramidalization/pyramidalisation,triangularization/triangularisation.
For anyone of a sensitive nature all the listed references at the
end of this file do not carry reference to some of the more gross deformations
and fatal conditions that a keyword search on Medline and Omim medical search
engines inevitably turn up. It would appear there was a flurry of publications in
the 1960s and 70s and little since until the 90s when geneticists became
intrigued. Seven sets of examples of the family genetics ,first two taken
from journal source 6 at the end of the file Firstly for a patient with MWD
only (no DCS) 3 generations of 21 related people were medically checked and she
was the only one with MWD; her parents were without MWD and her 4 daughters
showed no MWD. She was one of 11 siblings 6 male and 5 female ,none of the
others with MWD. 2 of her non-affected sisters had 2 non-affected daughters
each. Secondly the family tree of 5 generations of someone diagnosed with
DCS,Nf=Normal female,m=male,D=DCS,++ = union,-- = sibling, ? = not checked.
Fourth generation affected male was the index patient who incidentally proved to
be the first recorded case of male to male inheritance in 100 years of the
literature on DCS. The 'trees' below are intended for a font with equal spaced
letters if it is to be read correctly.
The above would seem to be fairly representative of how DCS propagates. It
was not clear in this journal but my interpretation is that in this example
anyone diagnosed with DCS would have been someone only showing MWD as well cases
of DCS and cases of DCS + MWD. I have used generally in this file the
interpretation of DCS as being someone showing mesomelia as the defining trait
and that of MWD someone having an obvious wrist disorder but no obvious
mesomelic foreshortening of forearm or lower leg. Third example M=MWD only
with no mesomelia. It is from one of this self help group with permission to
publish but no identifying detail.
Q Z
Dm Nf
|++|
A B
Nf Mm--Df Nm
|++| |++|
A1 A2 B1 B2
Dm--Mf Mf--Mf
The genetics in the above family probably show meiotic recombination between PARs (pseudoautosomal regions) ie the
telomeric extremeties of both X and Y chromosomes.
There are two possible explanations for the LWD / DCS to cause LWD in all
the family members male and female with either normal stature/Madelung or short/DCS.
Possibility 1:
LWD starts in mother of children A and B (and not in the father). Then
there is only a recombination necessary between X and Y of A to son
A2.
Possibility 2:
If LWD started in father Q of children A and B, then there are
two recombinations necessary:
If the Q had SHOX mutation in X-chromosome
once from Q to A
once from A to daughter A1
or
If Q had SHOX mutation in Y-chromosome
once from Q to B
once from A to daugther A1
Sixth examples taken from 8 French families from reference
17 Circles - female, blocks - male,black - affected, open - unaffected Seventh examples taken from 7 UK and Swiss families in reference 16
To summarise the genetics that would appear to emerge from these above
medical family trees and the family histories of people contacting this site. It
would appear if you have isolated MWD with no history of MWD or DCS in any other
of your family then it looks as though you will not pass on MWD to any
offspring. If you have MWD or DCS with another family member with MWD or DCS
then there is a high probability of passing on either or both MWD or DCS to any
offspring. If you are an unaffected sibling of an affected person then a low
probability of passing on MWD or DCS. Unfortunately, generally speaking, in the
medical-genetic studies the offspring of unaffected siblings are not studied.
Whether you are an affected male or female
,with family history of the conditions, then you can pass on the genetic
predisposition. I have not had medical confirmation of the above statement and
have not seen it stated in any medical journal ,it is just a consensus view with
no authority. Female offspring tend to be 4 times more likely than male
offspring to display the condition and have a more marked version.
The factor of 4 is the number repeatedly stated in the medical literature. On reading the
contributory stories in these files, the proportion would appear to be much greater than 4 to 1. As far
as having a serious form of the conditions then perhaps more like 30 to 1 female to male.
This is
probably due to oestrogens exerting a maturational effect on the skeletal
tissues that are susceptible to premature fusion of growth plates in conjunction
with SHOX deficiency where normal SHOX sufficiency would counteract the maturing
effect of oestrogens.
The following comment I have revised in the light of the experience of
people who have contacted me with MWD (see personal stories below). It was my
conjecture that dyschondrosteosis is a medical curiosity with little or no
requirement for surgical or other interventions and that since the eighties
there has been no research money available for what may be considered a cosmetic
condition. There has been renewed interest recently because genetically it has an
unpredictable amount of expression ie the degree of affect in related individuals
although genetically a dominant inheritance.
A practical manifestation of the Madelung wrist deformity is the following.
Ask the average person to sit on an upright dining chair with their arms
out-stretched with the web of the hands (between thumb and first finger) resting
on the thighs and they would have their thumbs against the inner thighs. This
position ,long term, would be uncomfortable for someone with the Madelung wrist
and would tend to adopt a position with the thumbs to the outside with ulnas
uppermost, see link to picture of Louise Robey below.
It is highly likely that Jimi Hendrix (1942-1970) the guitarist had this
condition (see later note concerning his son in Sweden). His performance at Woodstock ,on film, shows the characteristic
protruding ulna etc. The book Jimi Hendrix :the man, the music, the memorabilia
page 3 and page 67 by Caesar Glebbeck show his wrists, page 8 has a picture as a
pre-teenager with the characteristic uneven long bone development which
balances up by puberty; the same picture is on p20 of Jimi Hendrix Gypsey by
Henry Shapiro.Also p160 and p708 in this book shows his wrists well. The Life of
Jimi Hendrix by David Henderson informs us that Jimi was 5foot 11 inches and his
father Al 5foot 2inches which is consistent. There was speculation as to who his
father was probably principally from this height disparity. A quote from page 28
"Jimi......much taller than his father ,although not quite six foot
himself. Jimi's arms draped down almost to his knees. Sometimes his father would
stop work and come and stand by his side comparing arm lengths in jest" I am not
a guitarist but I can see how this wrist condition would allow Jimi to play his
guitar in his inimitable fashion. He played left handed with a right handed
guitar re-strung which meant the pick-up control switches and knobs were under
his hand. Because of the Madelung offset angle between hand and arm he could
control these switches with part of his palm while picking the strings. In the
reverse set-up a right-handed ,normal wristed, player using a re-strung left hand
guitar would also have the controls under his palm but he would not easily be
able to manipulate them while playing. Close-up of Jimi Hendrix's right
wrist with nobble of ulna marked with 4 red circles, his left wrist is probably
more representive. Another close-up ,head of Radius
marked R and Ulna marked U with the "pivot" point of the wrist well set back and
under the Ulna-head ,in shadow under the ulna rather than distally to the
ulna-head. The line (green) of the small finger along the edge of the palm
should normally line up with the head of the ulna. The normal hand position
relative to the wrist should be more like the red line in otherwise the same
bent down angle of the hand. Looking at the back of his palm the small finger
side is dropped down relative to the thumb side; this is what I have termed the
Madelung offset. Another illustrative pic of one hand at least http://www.photographicimage.com/prodimg/RK-007-wm.jpg
Unfortunately (maybe consciously
like a number of people with MWD) Jimi Hendrix not only usually wore long
sleeves and wide wrist-bands but sometimes frilly cuffs.. Pictures taken from
the Caesar Glebbeck book mentioned above. Recently I saw a piece of film/tape of
Jimi performing Voodoo Chile in 1969 on BBC tv "The Lulu Show". At the very end
he does his picking with the teeth routine and showed the ulna side of his right
wrist spectacularly well. I would estimate the unforced Madelung offset to be more that 30mm.
His left wrist had his usual wide wrist "bracelet" marked
with a red "B". I recorded onto
video tape and photographed off the tv screen and scanned in
. This
low resolution version is the best I can
do at the moment from the black and white TV image.
His right elbow is at the
left hand bottom corner of the TV screen and left
forearm and hand at the right of the picture.
The serious joggle between the overlaid red circles
is the unmistakable offset. The view is taken
from underneath his vertical forearm (shadow showing the ulna)and the underside of his guitar,
the fingers of his right arm at
the white neck of the guitar. At this angle you would
normally be looking at the edge of someone's right hand and perhaps palm but
because of the Madelung offset you see the top of
his hand and knuckles, his thumb
would be around the neck of the guitar.
Video now on youtube 3m 48 seconds into the 4 minute clip. Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Chile live
The following has rather too many ifs for my liking but is an interesting
exercise. If Hendrix had MWD and if the facial appearance of a broad/flat/depressed/wide nasal bridge
goes with MWD/DCS then Jimi Hendrix had wide upper nose and from family photos it
was his father Al who had this wide nose. Then of the paternal grandparents his
grandmother Nora Rose Moore had the wide nasal bridge. She was by family legend
the grand-daughter of a Cherokee princess.
I find it surprising that with all the millions of people who have
watched Jimi Hendrix on film I seem to be the only one to have "diagnosed"
him to have MWD. I agreed to send a copy of my tape of this part of the Jimi Hendrix
performance to a published medic, of international repute outside the UK, researching into MWD.
There would have been no problem giving a
negative diagnosis ie ,say, JH has not got MWD. All I got was a definite, repeated, no-comment.
I took that as a tacit acknowledgement that JH probably had MWD. A practising
medical professional could in no way give a diagnosis, remote and second hand, to a dead person
especially considering that MWD is a genetic condition and there are living
relatives of Jimi Hendrix.
And a comment by email to someone in this group from Prof. Peter Scambler (author to reference 15 below ),
Molecular Medicine Unit, Institute of Child Health, London, after seeing this file;
"I had come across the idea that the late great Jimi Hendrix had Madelung,
and that accounted for some of his ability with a guitar".
Looking at film of his father, Al Hendrix, he probably
had Cubitus Valgus and also, reportedly, was born with six fingers on each hand.
Looking at film of his purported brother, Leon Hendrix, I saw no
semblance of DCS or MWD (as part of a decades long inheritance legal dispute there was a DNA profile
check concerning whether they were brothers, but the results were withheld) .
It would be interesting to see if
Jimi's son James Henrik Daniel Sundquist Hendrix shows any symptoms.
Assuming this is a genuine profile at 1.81m then MWD
but not DCS it would seem Myspace profile by/of Jimi Hendrix's son
" Anyone
who has ever met me in person had no doubt that I am his real son.
(I even have a rare http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/dysch.htm joint condition the same) "
Is this a world first, remote diagnosis of a very rare medical
condition via picture evidence 30 years after death ?
Of all the strange coincidences one of the people with MWD who has
contacted this group had lived next door to Al Hendrix, neither knowing they may have had
the same syndrome because of its different manifestations. JH invalided out of the
military , according to which story you read, homosexual tendencies, parachute
jump ankle or back injury, not injuries to wrists.
Another possible "diagnosis" of someone else in the public eye. In 1999 the
Earl of Burford caused a rumpus in the House of Lords in London. In an
interview at that time in passing he mentioned his wife had odd wrists. He had
noticed it on first seeing her "porcelain wrists" as there was apparently the same sort of wonky
wrists in his own family. Or as reported in the Daily
Telegraph newspaper on 28 Oct 1999 Note - You have to now subscribe to
the archive of this newspaper " The couple met in Beverly Hills at a lecture
by Lord Burford on his pet theory that Edward de Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford,
was actually the author of the plays attributed to William Shakespeare. She
said: "After we met, he started writing me 16-page letters that were just
beautiful. I fell in love with his writing and he fell in love with my wrists,
or so he says." " His wife was an actress called Louise Robey. According to the
Canadian Screen Guild she has appeared in 3 movies and a TV series. 1. Raw
Deal with Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1986 (a small role). 2. The Money Pit with
Tom Hanks in 1986 (named in the credits as title music composer rather than the
non-speaking role). 3. Play Nice, in 1992. 4. Micki Foster in the TV
version of Friday the 13th series in 1987 in which she was the leading
lady. I hired a copy of Raw Deal. Louise Robey (in the credits as Robey
playing part "Lamanski's girl" ) has a one minute role playing a gangster's
moll. She is robbed of jewelry in a stretch limo by Arnold Schwarzenegger 26
minutes, about 1/3 way, into the film. A close up shows Louise removing an
earring. Her right wrist shows the protruding knobble of the ulna bone at the
wrist that is a characteristic appearance of Madelung. Even if her wrist is the
result of trauma rather than congenital Madelung Wrist Deformity or other
anomaly it is useful to have moving film showing someone with the appearance of
this deformity rather than medical research still photographs. The following is a
picture of her with a posture adopted that would be typical of someone with MWD,
rather a photogenic pic of the countess rather than a pic of me adopting the same pose.
One of the most subtley enigmatic pics on the net.
This picture shows someone in a pose that looks unnatural or
uncomfortable or even impossible but is quite comfortable for someone with the non-painful form of
MWD (see above reference to sitting on a dining chair). Note the forward
prominence of her right ulna. I have asked friends with normal wrists if they
notice anything odd about this picture and then asked them to strike-up this
pose. Almost all of them thought there was something odd about her hands, that is right
hand with fingers and palm touching thigh, fingers straight across, not at an
angle, and arm straight at the elbow, two thought it was a computer manipulated
image. They either could not adopt this pose or it was very uncomfortable and a
strain. This otherwise awkward looking posture is very familiar to me in my own
family and may even be another pointer or signature of MWD.
From ref 34 below For people with LWD but not MWD it would seem there is
a high probability of the following short 4th metacarpal and disappearing
knuckles. 1) For the right hand to start with. Turn tips of all fingers under so
that looking down at the hand you see back of hand and the first segments only
of the fingers. The first metacarpal is your thumb and 5th is the small finger.
The following is called Albright's sign. With a ruler join the farthest point of
the observed 5th to similar point of the 4th .Then if normal fingers the ruler
would pass outside of remaining fingers. With small 4th metacarpal the ruler
would cross over the 3rd metacarpal. 2) curl round fingers further to make a
fist. Again observing now just the back of the hand normally the knuckles would
have a sinusoidal up and down profile. With Leri-Weill this ripple is often
absent or much reduced.
As for rarity of Madelung Wrist Deformity or DCS may remain undiagnosed
because it is often misdiagnosed as arthritis, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, etc or just not diagnosed . From a
clinical geneticist working on the SHOX gene associated with DCS and MWD I
contacted via one of her journal articles: "I agree that it is difficult to find
the incidence of dyschondrosteosis in any references- there is one of 3-7 per
million (Atlas of Skeletal Dysplasias) but in my opinion it is likely to be more
common than this as it can be mild and so is not always diagnosed maybe
1/100,000- but this is only an estimate". Confirmed the following from the
British Library copy of this book :-
According to Adrian E. Flatt, The Care of Congenital Hand Anomalies (St Louis: The C. V. Mosby Co.,1977;page 50)
37 cases of congenital MWD in 1,476 patients with congenital hand
malformations (1.7 per cent of general hand malformations) and
1 to 2 per cent of live births with hand malformations so about 1 in 4,000 of the
general population of Iowa USA of the 1970s.
For comparison purposes the population
in 1997 of USA was 260 million, Canada 29m,UK 58m,Holland 16m, Sweden 9m, Italy
57m, Australia 18m, New Zealand 4m. Tasmania 0.47m,Northern Ireland 1.6m,Norway 4.3m
,Chile 14m,Peru 23m,Israel 5.5m, Denmark 5.3m, Brazil 156m, Poland 39m ,Mexico 93m. The
following is not rigorous statistically but gives a flavour of the rarity. From
replies (up to the revision date at the head of this file) to this group
(principally), concerning just numbers of DCS and/or MWD affected and/or diagnosed
persons including affected family members is : Holland (22 people) would
indicate less rare than 1 in 800,000. N. Ireland (2 people) the rarity in
the general population probably less than 1 in 750,000. The most valid
assessment due to the large proportion of internet users must be the USA, 191
people referred to on these files so rarity less than 1 in 1.45 million. Another
possible interpretation for the USA rarity is it is a nation of much more ethnic
diversity ie less inbred. In the UK 119 people, so rarity less than 1 in 500,000
of the population
In Australia 31 people (plus the Sydney 12 ? ) so rarity less than 1 in 670,000
( or perhaps 1 in 400,000 ) Canada 29 people, so rarity less than 1 in 1.2 million
New Zealand 6
people, so less than 1 in 700,000 12 people in Sweden so less than 1 in 800,000
8 in Denmark, so less than 1 in 650,000
3 in Israel so 1 in 1.8 million
1 in Norway
2 people in Chile
1 in Peru 1 in Poland 1 in Brazil 3 in Mexico
1 in Spain
NB the Dutch and N. Ireland figures
include numbers from medical sources so there is perhaps justification for
saying these are more valid figures. Then include the number of people totally
unaware of the diagnosis and a figure of 1 in 100,000 looks likely. A point to be aware of ; of
all the people making contact via this site not a single case of anyone ,knowingly,
being related to anyone else in this group.
A few personal stories
The following personal stories would not have
been possible but for the internet and global "whole text" search engines
putting everyone in contact. About 132 people ( as of end of 2005 ), some isolated, and some with a
familial genetic history so perhaps 400 or so people in total via family links.
If anyone would like to contact the group please e-mail me ,my contact details
are after the personal histories. No spam gets past me, the email addresses stay
within the group and no names or email addresses released to the internet other
than my own.
But first a few easy to perform tests for Madelung Wrist Deformity. I know
from reading the medical research papers that it is very difficult to understand
the terminology relating to these tests so I have put them in simple language.
First test I will call for convenience N1 plus R for right and L for left. A
simple test for Madelung wrist deformity (but not necessarily unique to MWD and
I hasten to add I've not had qualified medical opinion on the following). For
inspecting right wrist (N1R) place the thumb of the left hand on the wrist end
of the right ulna. Place the first finger of the left hand against the section
of the right palm nearest to the ulna. Then with a "squeezing" action (with
firmness that would probably break a hen's egg if applied to the weakest
diameter of an egg) the misalignment should substantially reduce but immediately
spring back on releasing the pressure. Make an estimate in mm how much
misalignment there is. Repeat for the other hand (N1L). MWD is usually bilateral
ie both wrists but maybe more pronounced in one wrist than the other. See person
C below who has the "bayonet" form of MWD and my N tests do not apply with this
variant of MWD. There may be clicking of wrists on moving. Hold forearn horizontal
in front of chest with thumb towards you. With hand sloping downwards initially,
rotate the forearm until the ulna is uppormost. Or
return to the horizintal forearm position and with hand hanging loose , vertically down,
raise the hand to as vertical as possible. I've put 3 photos of this description in the following. This is
not the "bayonet" form although a relative of mine does have the "bayonet form"
.I've not seen such a sequence in any of the medical research literature and
gives something nearer a "dynamic" view of what is going on. Overlaid on the
first photo is a rough idea of where the ulna lies. The first image is of hand
and forearm resting on a flat surface in a natural state. The displacement
between the two blue markers is about 21mm. The ruler is marked in centimetres.
The blue markers remain in the same position for the next two
images. It is not possible to conduct the N test as described above and
photograph at the same time so have approximated by placing a small block under
the ulna side of the palm and pushed the forearm down. This gives a minimum
displacement of about 7mm For the maximum displacement holding the fingers down on the
flat surface and forcing the forearm upwards. This shows a displacement of about 23mm. So from minimum to maximum a
movement of 16mm. Actually doing the N test applying force directly over the
displacement is more like 20mm.
The following 2 tests have been verified by a practising orthopedic
specialist but for convenience I have called P1 and P2
Test P1
For testing right wrist (P1R) you must hold your elbow with your left hand.
Turn you right thumb from facing right to facing left. Somebody with madelung
can't make a 180 degree turn.
Test P2 Next you can test the upward movement by moving your hand, palm
up,(and holding your arm still) up and down. Someone with a healthy wrist has a
range of about 180 degrees (from down to up). Someone with Madelung hasn't, they
have less than 180 degrees.
Of course proper medical diagnosis requires X-rays being taken and analysed
by a physician familiar with the condition or at least familiar with reading
X-rays for which the wrist is naturally rather variable from person to person.
In the following list of people those marked [ CL ] are in the e-mail
circulation list. I am the moderator / gatekeeper so no spam etc gets passed on.
This is a closed group with no one's full name or e-mail address released except
my own.
Myself,Nigel,England [ CL ] MWD I am in 40s and can't honestly say my
wrists are a problem and only doing this research did I realise I had a
medically discernible condition. Although someone in my family was diagnosed in
the 1960s with the more obvious DCS there was nothing to suggest then it was
hereditary and no family genetic counselling . I never realised my wonkey wrists
had the same genetic origin and being benign there was no need to seek medical
advice . Writing wordy essays at school meant my wrists ached after a while
perhaps this a contributory reason for me preferring maths and physics.
"growing pains" leading to disturbed sleep may have been more than normal. As long
as I lift heavy weights in an appropriate manner (lifting with the end of the
forearm rather than my hand under the object) and don't subject them to shock
loading ( eg not competing in tug-of-war and not pushing a car with stopped
engine to bump start etc) .I have not had any problem in adulthood only once
totally dislocating my wrist but jumping straight back again, when I was about
25. This was unloading a 50 Kg bag of fertilizer from a lorry, the plastic bag
slipped and instead of letting it drop I tried grabbing it with one wrist at an
awkward angle. As a teenager I broke my wrists on 3 separate occasions but it
was dismissed as boys will be boys falling off things and an inherent weakness
was never diagnosed. The 3 occasions were falling off a bike, getting forearm
wedged under a child's playground swing and while crank starting an agricultural
engine that backfired. All situations where anyone could have broken a wrist.
The perplexed radiographer tryig to understand why my good wrist looked as
broken in the x-rays as my broken wrist. I
never broke a leg or arm it was only ever wrists. I have only self-diagnosed in
the last few years (1998-1999). My GP (doctor) was most impressed he actually
jumped out of his seat to manipulate my wrists: he had never seen or heard of
the condition - I demonstrated MWD to him as I was about to leave his surgery
having visited on another matter. Walking through doorways I often knocked this
exposed area of the ulna against the door-frame also wearing a watch it had to
lie on forearm above this knobble. If I get the angles and pressures just right
using the other hand I can make the radius side of my right wrist sublux into
the "bayonet " form. It springs back after releasing the pressure unlike the
permanent bayonet form . I have always been cautious of handshakes. The origins
for handshaking is as a sign of non-hostility because originally it meant your
hand could not be on the hilt of your sword if it was clasping someone else's
hand. Unfortunately too many people go to exaggerated shaking etc which for
someone with MWD is aggravating.
[Incidentally chinking of glasses has a similar origin. As a check against poison
in someone's glass - the chinking in pewter type vessels guaranteed the contents
of one cup would slurp into the other cup.]
Fifth digit clinodactyly to a minor degree.
It is just possible that hearing anomalies are
associated with DCS and MWD there are references to this in the journal
articles eg ref. (50 below ). Someone else in my family had reduced hearing capacity from early
middle age. I went the other way in teens and twenties I was susceptible to high
frequency noise well above the normal hearing range ie technically between 15
KHertz and 40KHertz. In those days a lot of shops etc had ultrasonic intruder
detector systems on their premises now superseded with PIR detectors. For
technical reasons those ultrasonic systems had the transmitters active all the
time and only the receivers switched off day time so I had to duck and dive to
avoid them as they were usually placed at head height. MWD/DCS is an
irregularity in bone development; hearing relies on the smallest bones in the
body so there could well be a connection. Someone else in this group has separately
experienced this phenomenom. Routine hospital hearing tests would seem
to only go up to 8KHz which is nowhere near the ultrasonic range, so presumably
the reference here is the only reference to it in association with DCS/LWD/MWD.
I would appear to have a fibula/knee
anamoly, with either leg but right most prominent. Bend leg at knee then angle
upwards the foot and twist the foot to direction of centre of body. The top of
the fibula bone on the outside side of the body protrudes outwards. Another trait
that seems to go along parallel with DCS is facial characteristic of wide nasal
bridge ,ie the bony part of the nose rather than the fleshy part being wider
than normal.
Demonstrating MWD half-broken wrists in a social environment is quite some
party-trick - it can make some people come over quite nauseous. On the development history.
Here is a photograph of me as a
pre-teen that except for the trite observation that I am white and Jimi was
black could be the same as this preteen picture of Jimi Hendrix taken Seattle 1946 and
appeared on a 1993, vol 7, No 4, cover of the Japan version of Esquire magazine.
Pre-teen Jimi Hendrix Both pictures show someone in short trousers with knees at
different heights with one leg angled and each arm
maybe different in length. The shoulders are canted perhaps 20 degrees off
horizontal, twisted and bent limb bones and splayed feet all very rickets like.
In all we look like we were assembled, cobbled together, on the Friday afternoon
shift while drunk. By age 15 these asymmetric growth rates had balanced up to
give an evenly balanced stance of 6ft 3in. There was just one long term effect -
poor foot angle when walking, leading to fast wear of the outer rear edge of the
heels of shoes. Also some clinodactyly in a couple of toes. fourth metacarpal, leading
to overlap under the third, when pressured, in walking causing problems. Test results for myself:- N1L a displacement of about 8mm and
N1R about 20mm P1L 150 degrees P1R 150 degrees P2L 80 degrees P2R 90 degrees
P in Holland (in email contact with) [ CL ] DCS Well I've got
dyschondrosteosis. It's also called Leri Weill syndrome. I'm in my 20s (in
2000, female)and one of my wrists has been operated. They've put a piece of my
hipbone in it with a piece of metal on top with 7 screws in order to keep my
wrist from moving cause it hurt to much. I live in Holland and there are 4 other
families in Holland (each with 2 patients, I'm the only one in my family). I'm
the first person with dyschondrosteosis in my family. . The dyschondrosteosis is
most visible in my arms (wrists) and mildly in my legs. My left wrist is the
worst and gave me a lot of pain. The pain was caused by the fact that my wrist
was permanently dislocated and my muscles had to work very hard to keep
everything together. Test results P1R 90 degrees P1L 20 degrees The doctors are
very quick in diagnosing Madelung but they're not looking further. Madelung
itself is not heriditary and it's easy to determine if someone has
dyschondrosteosis with Madelung or that the Madelung is a birthdefect or caused
by a accident. In most cases a simple X-ray of the legs is conclusive. If "A"
wants to I can give her information, especially because we're practically the
same age and I've had my wrist stiffened (arthrodeses).
Update Oct, 2005
Just a quick update on my own situation: they're going to remove the metal
fusion plate from my left wrist on December 20th because
it is causing zwelling and such and such.
From I in Canada (in email contact with) [ CL ] MWD This year (2000) I
just discovered that I (female) have Madelung's Deformity. I have had trouble
with both wrists ever since I can remember and I am anxious to write to someone
with the same deformity. I am also in my forties. When I was a young child my
wrists would become painful especially writeing, playing piano, knitting or
typing. My mum just thought that I was saying that because I didn't want to do
these things. I always had protruding wrists (outside area) so I knew then that
my wrists were different than any one else. About twenty-six years ago when I
was pregnant with my first child I starting experiencing numbness and tingling
in both hands especially in bed at night or when I would hold something for a
period of time (my left hand was the worst). I was told that this was common
with some pregnancies with the extra water retention in my system. I had four
children and had the same ailment throughout. Five years ago my Family doctor
sent me to see a RHEUMATOLOGIST who said that I had Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and I
had various tests done, was on different medications and had to wear wrist
braces going to bed at night . Last year (1999) I experienced a lot of pain in
my right wrist and the bone was protruding more than usual. I'm right-handed but
I couldn't use my right hand as it was so painful and the pain shot down to my
little finger and up to my elbow. I had to go to the hospital for some extensive
testing and the doctor there told me that I didn't have Carpal Tunnel but he
never told me what was wrong. I went back to the Rheumatologist and he told me
that I had some kind of birth defect and left it at that. Meanwhile, I was in
agony and sometimes cried with the pain so I went back to my Family doctor and
he referred me to a ORTHOPAEDIC SURGEON. This Surgeon did a full history and
testings before he would let me leave his office and was able to tell me
straight away that I had Madelung's Deformity. He told me that it was very RARE
and GENETIC and that he would only operate as the last resort as it was quite a
big operation. He was more interested in getting the pain under control so I had
a Cortisone shot which took a few weeks to take affect and also put me on an
anti-inflammatory and pain killer called CELEBREX (what is mainly for arthritis
which I don't have). The deformity affects the Ulna and Volar in both of my
wrists although the deformity is now worse in my right wrist as the outer bone
seems to have moved more towards the middle of the wrist and my hand tends to
turn more to the right now. Test results P1L 110 degrees P1R 150 degrees
K in Tasmania (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD A couple of weeks ago (in
2000,female) I too was diagnoed with Madalung's deformity (aged 21). I was at
the specialist at my local hospital when I found out. Luckly there were student
doctors there so i was told a bit about the condition. But the only treatment i
was told about was an operation which they won't do unless it gets much worse.
so i went looking on the internet for some not medical treatments for the pain
in my wrists and for some more information when i found your site. So what i am
asking is, can you pass on any information that you recieve. and do you know of
any treatments or things that i can do to make my live easier. All the
information i have found on the net went over my head, there were lots of
technical stuff that i didn't understand. The main thing that irritates me about
madelung's is that my family doctor had never heard of it, let alone knew how to
treat it. and the medical books she has had very little info in them. I was told
I had MWD in July this year, I found out because the pain in my left wrist had
never really left since spraining it aroud 4 years ago and then it proceeded to
get worst since the begining of the year. The Dr at the local youth health
center sent me for xrays basicly to make me happy because he couldn't see
anything wrong but could see that I was in pain. After the xrays came back with
a V dispalacement, he decided that I too would need to see an Ortho Dr. The
younger doctors in the Ortho Department at the Hospital told me that there was
no reason they could see for the pain and it was one of those things that I will
have to live with. But they thought they would check with the old!!! Dr to see
what he thought. The young Dr briefed the old one and as soon as he walked in
said that I had this MWD. Because my local hospital is a teaching hospital, he
went and explined it to me and the Student Doctors. He said the people with MWD
are prone to sprains. To explain the way the deformity affects the wrist, He
also said that I can play on the monkey bars, But never to do a hand stand,
because this will make it worse. Now if i even knock my wrist I bandage it up
over night or for a couple of days for protection so that it doesn't get any
worse. Basically why go to the doctor and pay them to tell you to wrap it up and
go easy on it.
C in the USA (in e-mail contact) I have Madelung's Deformity. I'm 46
years old and 5ft 10in I read some info and letters on your website. I've had
trouble all my life with wrist pain, the worst in my late teens and early 20s
and now again just recently in the last 6 months. I've used moist heat
(hydroculator) , ice, anti-inflammatories and since April of 2000 I go to a
massage therapist at least twice a month. The massage therapy has given me the
most relief. I've played piano since age 8, concert organ and pipe organ since
age 11, crochet, needle point, and do secretarial work for the last 13 years
(writing this in 2000). I was tested for Carpal Tunnel in April 2000, which
results were negative. The wrists braces the doctor gave me to wear while
waiting for the test date actually made my wrists weaker. I wanted to write in
case someone can benefit from my input. I was diagnosed with Madelung's
Deformity only this last April. When I was growing up my parents and I just
figured that I had weak wrists. My symptoms have included weakness in the wrists
all my life, this last year - dropping things like jars of jelly, milk cartons
etc. (have to use both hands to lift anything) , I've also had numerous wrist
sprains since I was about 18 years old and a real bad spell where my wrists hurt
non stop for about 2 years about age 19 - 20. I wear ace wraps off and on and
when I played tennis even as a child, wore ace wraps. My wrists bones on both
wrists stick way out.... thru my life many people have asked me, "Wow, did you
break your wrist or something?" ------(by e-m i mentioned she probably had the
"bayonet wrist" variant If someone looks at you side on when your standing up
and arms down and palms facing backwards. The hands are stepped backwards from
the line of the forearm (joggled) like the way a bayonet is fixed to a rifle off
centre so the blade does not interfere with the path of a bullet.)------- Yes!
That's exactly it. And I also can not straighten my arm at the elbow if my palm
is flat against a wall at shoulder level {probably Cubitus Valgus}. I didn't
mention that the hand specialist who diagnosed me in April wanted to do surgery.
I told him that i'd rather live with it. I do go to a Massage Therapist every
other week and she works my neck, upper back, arms and wrist real well. I've
been taking Glucosamine Complex and I'll let you know if it helps. Was suggested
to me by a friend who went to a holistic doctor. Also doing an exercise where
you squeeze your thumb to fore finger and count to five and then squeeze your
other fingers the same and then stretch out the whole hand and do the other hand
the same. So far the theraputic massages every other week have helped the most
and I can go for days now without any pain at all in one or both wrists.
R in the USA While browsing the web I found your web page and I must say
that its quite nice to see. I have Madelung's deformity and it can be quite
painful, especially with repetitive movement such as writing, typing, etc. I
would really like to get in contact with other people with the same condition. I
have been to a wrist specialist who diagnosed my condition. Unfortunately, the
treatment is basically "do whatever doesn't hurt." So I would really like to be
in contact with other people with the same condition.
T in the UK just found your address on web, what is your interest in
madelung as i have suffered as long as i can remember with said deformity. i am
female and i am 45
From D in the USA in e-mail contact with. [ CL ] DCS+MWD
I (female) was
happy to have found your website! I have two daughters and one son. My daughters
are 11 and 12 1/2, they have both recently been diagnosed with Madelung's
Deformity. They will be participating in a research study on Madelung's here
close to home. Have you found anything else that is typically found to be wrong
in someone with Madelung's Deformity? The Dr. believes the girls also have
Leri-Weill Dyschondrosteosis, and that my husband has Leri-Weill also, although
he doesn't have Madelung's Deformity. I would like to find out how rare this is,
but they can't seem to give an answer. The Dr. doing the research said he
believes it's much more common than people origially thought, but not able to
give me any real numbers. Are you also short statured? My daughters are very
short statured. Do you know if you have radial head displasia (RHD)? Both of my
daughters have it. The Doctor said that all people with the radial head
displasia typically have Madelung's Deformity, but not everyone with Madelung's
has the RHD. I would love to hear from you. Followup Nov 2000 We were at the
hospital again today, from E's fall a couple of weeks ago, for her to be checked
again. Today they checked her legs, they said it is common for girls with this
to have very big calves. E does, but my oldest, S, does not. They made a special
brace for E as she has very large forearms and a normal brace off the shelf does
not fit her right. I asked the Dr. what the chances are, if she has pain now at
11, what the odds are that she will have pain the rest of her life, he says no,
but that doesn't seem to be the case from most of the others on the mailing
list, I've met through your website. I don't want my girls to have to suffer
with pain their whole life! I believe I already told you, but we are
participating in two studies on MWD. Followup Sept 2001 Just thought I would
update you all on my daughters and their Madelungs. S is doing well, not due to
see the Dr. again till next year. She is starting to have pain when she does to
much writing, she is 13. This scares me, as she has never had pain before and it
is just now "developing". The doctors won't do anything for her, as she has what
they call a "mild" or "less severe" case of Madelungs. E, had surgery on her
left wrist in April. It is much more severe case of Madelungs. She had such
severe pain before the surgery, and after had no pain whatsoever. We were so
thrilled.....until 2 weeks ago when she started having severe pain in the same
wrist (left) she had surgery on. She is already scheduled to have surgery on the
right arm in October, but now we have to consider another surgery on the left.
After her surgery in April she was in a long arm cast for 6 weeks, which wasn't
to bad on her left arm, as she is right handed. When we get the right arm done
she is very concerned about having that long arm cast on her right arm and not
being able to use it. The doctors have even mentioned doing both arms in
October, but we (my husband and I) are going to let them know that we want to
get the left fixed then schedule the right. It also scares me that the doctors
keep telling me that when their growth plate closes there is no reason to
believe they will have any pain at all, but the letters I see from most of you
says that you do have pain as you get older. The growth plate should close
around 15 or so. I love the hospital here in -, they have been really great, and
as I have told some of you, we participated in a study, that I believe is still
ongoing in Philadelphia, PA, about Madelungs. We found out that it is genetic
and that it usually affects that SHOX gene, which has some mutation.
From A in the USA in e-m contact with [ CL ] MWD Hi, My name is A. I am
24 and live in the US. I was just diagnosed (2000,female ) with Madelung's
deformity and found your web site. I just wanted to tell you how informative it
was, I wasn't able to find a whole lot of info online. I am a Registered Nurse
and had never heard of Madelung's until I was sitting in the doctor's office
with what I thought was a strained wrist. My left wrist is the most symptomatic,
and it has bothered me since I can remember. I never thought anything about it
though. I am dominant on my right, so left sided weakness never affected me
until now. I am feeling very frustrated because my doctor told me I was going to
have to live with the pain, that none of the available surgeries would benefit
me. Of all things he thought wrist fusion may work later on, but for me that
isn't an option. I have found most of my information from medical textbooks and
professional journals, but I would be interested in any information that you may
have. Thanks.
C2 in the USA in e-m contact with [ CL ] MWD Hello, my name is C, .... i
also have madelungs deformity. i had pain in my wrist since i was about 15 years
old. but if i ever had pain before i think i just ignored it. but over a few
years its became alot worse. im 18 now (in 2000,female), im getting surgery done
on my arm/wrist. i go to the doctor in about a week to get a CT scan (cat scan)
so that he can get a better look at my bones. then after that appointment i go
in front of many doctors here in to see what the best kind of surgury for me
would be. So i think this is actually a very good way of solving the problem. My
mom also realized that she has it and so did her aunt. so it seems to be quite a
problem in my family. Well i just thought that i would share my thoughts with
you and my problem. i really like your website it had a lot of interesting
information on there. thanks alot!!
From B in the USA in em contact with [ CL ] MWD I have a 15 year-old
daughter (2000) who was recently diagnosed with Madelung's Deformity. It is in
her right wrist and she is right-handed. The doctor has advised fusing her
wrist. Has anyone had this done and do they have any regrets? I worry about the
loss of motion in her wrist, but she is really wanting the surgery. I would feel
better if I could hear from others who have had this done.
From A in Holland (father) in e-mail contact with [ CL ] DCS+MWD This
morning (2000) we searched the web for information about Madelung's Deformity.
We're very glad we've found your notes. Our daughter "A" (15 years old) is known
to have Madelung's Deformity for about 1 year.The last few months the pain has
become worse,for example at school she has trouble with carrying and lifting her
books. Both wrists have the deformity,left gives most of the problems. Last year
we visited a doctor(who made the diagnosis) and he told us that there were only
5 other people in Holland with the same problem. We have no idea how to go
further and are looking for information that can help us along. Reading your
pages we saw that you have (email) contact with " P in Holland". If possible we
would like to make contact with him to gain information about the possibilities
about treatment in Holland etc.So maybe you can give us his email address But
also your other contacts have our attention. We feel free(if it's oke) to
contact you again.Thank you for your attention,hope to hear from you soon. "A"
is the only one known with the Madelung's Deformity in our family. About a year
ago she started complaining about her wrists. We consulted a
doctor(orthopaedist) in our local hospital. He made some X-rays and told us he'd
never saw anything like it before. Unfortunately he only made X-rays of both
wrists,so he didn't notice the curving of the radius.The next morning he called
us and told us he'd found similar photo's in his book known as Madelung's
deformity.He made an appointment for us with a professor called Mr. D. I think
this will be the same professor P visited! He X-rayed the whole skeleton and
gave us the diagnosis Dyschondrosteosis and Madelung wrist deformity."A" is only
1.55 meters tall. Her legs (tibia/fibula) are short in comparison with the rest
of the body. He told us that no treatment was necessary at that point.At that
time she had no pain and it lasted well for a whole time.At the moment the pain
is becoming worse and she has difficulties at school carrying her bag as we
already wrote. So we're looking for more information about possibilities and
treatment.
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From M3 in the UK , (in e-mail contact) MWD
Hello, my name is M_ (female). I am 14 and from england. I have been
diagnosed with mwd in my right wrist. It has become so bad and so painful
that i now cannot write. To get through my school career i have to type out
my work on a laptop. For my english project i need to research an intrest
in my life, and i chose to research my deformity. I was wondering if i
could join the wonky wrist club. The doctors have told me that i will have
to wait until ive stopped growing before they can operate on my wrist, and
that might take years, do you know of any alternate ways of correction?
From A in Canada ,joined 2003, followup May 2009
Unfortunately, my MWD is gotten worse throughout the years therefore
I'm having reconstructive surgery (partial fusion) on May 26, 09.
I have faith that I have found the best upper limb extremety Doctor
in Canada. If anyone is interested in more info pls feel free to contact me.
From M4 in the UK , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I am pleased that I found this site, I went to the doctors today and now
know what is wrong with me, I have madelungs! Im 33 female, 5ft and have always
know there is a problem, in my early teens I had a lot of visits to the
hospital and nothing seemed to become of it, it was never really spoken
about within my family, always seen as not important, on visiting the
doctors today the condition is on my medical file and was identified when
I was around 10 years old, cant remember why nothing else was done or why
i, always had abit of mild pain, but now my wrists are now starting to
cause me pain when im carrying to much. and I am now concerned that they
are going to become worse as I get older, both my wrist are twisted and
have bowed short forearms, reading the site has given me so much
information that I did not know, and it is a comfort that im not the only
one, ive always ignored comments and people looking at me, I do block it
out and put off dealing with it, I come across as this doesn’t bother me,
but get upset in pivate and never talk about it.
As reguards to my family, my cousin, who male, has been diagnosed of it, but
doesn't really give him any trouble, has both wrists the same as mine but
not as noticeable, and I also have another cousin ( not diagnosed )who is
male and very short, so maybe some connection there.
I am now going to the
hospital next month and learning to deal with this!! Thanks to reading
information on MWD I have a lot more clear understanding
From D in New Zealand ( in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
Hi, my 12 year old daughter has been visiting a paediatritian for 4 years
because I was concerned with her height (she has been sitting on the 3rd
percentile on her growth chart despite my husband being 6'2 and me 5'4).
A wrist x-ray for bone age found her bone age to be 2 years behind her
actual age and also found her to have Madelung deformity in both wrists.
I asked the orthopaedic surgeon if her short stature was related to her
Madelung deformity and he said no. I then found your site and discovered
they could be very related. Are there any measurements I could take without x-rays to check fore-arm and lower leg proportions to present this possibility to her specialist? Thank you for the wealth of information.
From G3 in the USA (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I (female) discovered your website through our local doctor. I'm living and working
on _ [ a tiny atoll in the Pacific ,600 miles from any other atoll or any other island,
betwen Hawaii and Guam ]. She
has been very interested in my wrists and short arms. I always thought the
deformity was called Madeline's deformity. She spent a couple of days
researching and found your website. I was born in Long Beach, CA U.S.A.
I have a severe case of MWD. My sister also has it as did my father.
His mother had it and her father had it. We're not sure how far back in
the family history it goes. A few years ago it was very painful but I've
been pain free for a few years now. I've had several orthopedic surgeons
wanting to do surgery for comsmetic purposes but decided surgery was too
much of a risk. The looks of my wrists don't really bother me much anymore
and when people ask what happened I just tell them I left them out in the
rain and they warped and they usually laugh.
I think it's kind of cool that it's very rare and I share this defomity
with someone famous.
From D in the UK (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
Hi there, my daughter has just been diagnosed with Madelung deformity. She
is 13, and has been having pain in her wrists on and off for around 6 months.
Today we saw Professor _ at Southampton General Hospital, and got the
diagnosis. We have been told to think about surgery to correct it, and I
would love to hear from anyone who has had surgery, and those that opted out
of it, so we can make an informed choice on how to proceed.
Nobody else in the family has any signs or symptoms of MWD at all. The
consultant who my daughter saw yesterday told us that its very rare, and
that he sees maybe 1 case a year. She does cope remarkably well, and only
seems to struggle with some sports, especially volley ball, and some daily
activities are difficult when the pain is bad.
Thanks for setting up this group, there are no others for MWD, not that I
can find anyway.
From ?? in ?? (in e-mail contact) MWD
I am 53 with what I believe to be MWD in my right arm however have never
been diagnosed. I have two daughters, my youngest daughter diagnosed with
MWD at age 14 - she is now 19. Her arms are short as well as 4th and 5th
didgits, her 2 knuckles are half back on her hand. Her forearms are bowed
as well. She does have very long legs, most of the length in the legs is in
her upper leg. She is 5'11. My other daughter may have normal height but
not sure the lower portion of her leg is normal as she has very large
calf's. I'm concerned after reading your article that this could be passed
further.
I have no knowledge of family history...... as both parents are dead 20+
years.
From C8 in the USA , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
My name is C_, Kansas, and I am 22 years old. I have had unusual pain in my
wrist my whole life. I have always had the abnormal looking ulna. I have
went to the Dr. several times with the same response: xrays are normal. I
started going to school to become a court reporting and started having
sever pain in both my wrist. I went to the Dr. and again my xrays were
normal. After a year of putting up with this pain my fingers started
tingling and would often go numb. I decided I was going to a specialist.
After seeing the xrays and the Dr.'s jaw dropping response, I was scared.
The Dr. never told me that day what I had. He called me the next day (after
looking it up) to tell me I had Madelung's. He doesn't feel comfortable
treating it. He sent me to a neurologist and the results were a mild form
of carpal tunnel. He is referring me to another Dr. but he is unfamiliar
with this deformity also. He told me I will have to change my career plans
and that this could be a lifelong issue for me. They are now wanting me to
see a Dr. in St. Louis, MO. I have researched this Dr. and he is not too
familiar either. I was wondering if there is a Dr. that is more familiar
with this deformity. If I have to travel, I might as well go to someone who
knows more about the subject. Thank you so much for this site. It has
informed me more than any other site. It is very helpful to hear positive
and negative feedback. I have my xrays from a year ago and I will be
getting my most recent ones if you would like me to send you a copy.
My family has not been diagnosed with this. My grandma does show signs of
dwarfism. She is about 4'7" and at her tallest was 4'11" and my cousin is
5'2". Her daughter has been diagnosed with Turners Syndrome. I am unsure if
they are related but the doctor I went to the other day said they have
similarities in the bone deformity and may have came from the same gene.
I am not sure though.
Thank you so much.
From J in Canada , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I live in Toronto, ontario, canada
My 13 yr old daughter was diagnosed with Madelung's deformity about 2 yrs
ago. She had banged her arm at school, i took her to our local hospital
emergency dept. The took x-rays, the doctor said it looked like she had a
dislocated growth plate in her wrist. He told us to comeback the next day
and he would give her a mild sedative and manipulate the growth plate back
into place.When we came back the next day the doctor told us that he had
shown her x-ray to the head of the dept, the dept head told him that it was
not a disloctaion but in fact madelung's deformity, he himself had heard of
it but never seen it. We were advised that it most cases do not present any
problems. My daughter experiences mild to moderate discomfort and
continuously complains of this.She has one wrist that is more promenant the
the other , i also think that it affects her self esteem.
I am not aware of anyone else in our family with it, but we have a large
family, relatives that we have little contact with.
Does anyone have any idea how many people are inflicted with this.
From K2 in the UK , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I read with interest your site as there doesn't seem to be much information
on this subject! I am 37 years old, normal height (5 ft 6) and was diagnosed
with madelungs some 10 years ago through having an MRI scan as doctors were
a bit baffled.
I have got by over the last few years but lately having pain and hardly any
movement in one wrist. I am seeing my GP this week to try and start the
process again. Could anyone tell me more about surgery available?
I'm not aware of anyone else in our family having this although my mum has
weak wrists. I did miscarry a baby girl at 16 weeks and when tests carried
out it showed 'edwards' syndrome', she had no lower arms - never thought of
it before but could have been linked possibly.
I am hoping to see my GP with MRI scans this week to get the ball rolling. I am just concerned that at 37 years having trouble which may get worse.
From C9 in the USA , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
My name is C, and my son T_ (age 20) has Madelung's. He was diagnosed at
age 13. I noted on FB that you are trying to create a list of those that
have MD. Please add my son to your list. We are trying to find as much
information as we can about it.
My son is the only of our four children that exhibits the symptons. My
other son is nearly six feet tall, has long arms and legs. My son with
MWD is just over five feet, with short limbs. One of our daughters also
is of normal height, but does exhibit some of the symptoms in her ankles (wide, misshaped).
From A in the UK , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I was recently diagnosed with Madelung wrist 'deformity' after an accident
on holiday required xrays. I dont really know what it means, and theres
so much information on the internet I was getting a bit freaked out.
I wonder if my form is down to displaysia, as I was born with hip
displaysia, or wether its completely irrelevant? My sister also has a rare
spinal condition so it would seem that we do have a congenital problem with
our bone structure. Does it actually mean anything? the doctors have told
me nothing, I only found out by chance when i had xrays on my feet
yesterday that requires surgery.
2010
From M in New Zealand , (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
I was diagnosed with MWD in 2003 when I was 13. Now due to various injuries
(Im clumsy and fall alot) I have quite bad pain.
I was wondering if you knew the best treatment? I have researched about as
much as I can but all of the details are to technical for my understanding.
And also, what are your veiws on just getting a wrist replacement?
Thank you for the site! Very helpful!
From S7 in the UK , Scotland (in e-mail contact) [ CL ] MWD
hello im a female 39 have a severe form of madelungs and shortening of the arms..also club feet when younger...have had surgery on my right wrist but has made it weaker
would love to find out more especilally from sufferers..I FEEL IM THE ONLY PERSON IN SCOTLAND TO HAVE THIS...
i would like to no how severe..how rare..long term effects etc etc ..
i can supply photos if needed..
my mum had a slight raised bone in wrist but no shorting of the arm
my 14 year old daughter has same as my mum..tho her hands are weak..
as you can imagine lots and lots of questions and depressing thoughts some times ..has not done my confidence any good..
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As of Oct 2005 all 14 AOL addresses removed from circulation/update emails.
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Then the recipients can simply set a filter to divert into a probable-spam folder and periodically
check the titles themselves for false inclusions, due to too many non-dictionary technical words
or whatever, before deleting the lot. UK based NTL / ntlworld contacts are likely to be the next
subgroup to be so excluded.
The wrist condition was recognised and then published by Herr Madelung in 1878 ( 17 years
before X-ray images were invented) and later was named after
him.
********************
Otto Wilhelm Madelung - Die spontane
Subluxation der Hand nach vorne. Verhandlungen d. deutschen Gesellschaft fur
Chirurgie 7:259-276,1878 ( The Spontaneous Forward Subluxation of the Hand-
Proceedings of the German Association of Surgeons 1878 ) . Also in Arch.Klin.
Chir 1878;23:395-412 I tried getting a copy of this journal article from a
medical archive institute in Freiburg, Germany but their series of this journal
go back to 1879. May 2002 I contacted Prof Dr Gudrun Rappold at Heidelberg and
she forwarded on a copy of his article to me. The following is a rough
transcript of that article . There are errors especially confusion between "e"
and "c" as almost indistinguishable in the printed typeface plus usual
mis-keyings. It not only contains archaic medical terms but is written in the
German of one and a quarter centuries ago.
This 1878 article ,for the moment ,crudely
translated into something resembling English but not as she is spoke. The gist
of the paper is there. When both myself ,and a German speaking friend ,can find
time, we will tidy up the translation. I am not a medic and know no German so it
is surprising there is anything intelligible in this translation. I find
sections of the technical medical journals on these topics to be fairly
impenetrable even in English. It is an amalgam of a few online machine
translations and use of a large German to English dictionary and a German
medical dictionary at Boldrewood Medical Library. Untranslated words are in italics. O W Madelung 1878 Journal Article (
<> English )
A recent return to OW Madelung and his work.
Part of article Journal of Hand Surgery (American) / Vol 31A, No 2, February 2006 *********************
And now the first publication of what later became known as Leri-Weill Syndrome.
Just 4 weeks to get a copy of this 1929 French journal presumably from
France via the British Library and that despite
my journal reference to this article had Vol 53 not Vol 35.
Note may still be some uncorrected mistranscribed letters c / e / : i / l : t / f
Text only , the pictures were too indistinct to copy
Bulletins et Memoires de la Societe Medicale des Hopitaux de Paris.
Une Affection Congenitale et Symetrique de Developpement Osseux: la Dyschondrosteosa
By Leri, A And Weill,J
Vol 35, 20 Dec 1929, pp 1491 to 1494
Later citations refer to this article, same page numbers and year, as Vol 53
Journal name abbreviated to
Bull. Soc. Med. Hop. Paris
The following is my translation ,NB I have no knowledge of French or Medicine so read with
that proviso. It is result of machine translation and use of a number of French Medical dictionaries.
Should anyone, with knowledge of French, spot any errors distorting the meaning, please contact me Leri & Weill Journal Article,1929 (
<> English )
*************************
After
reading the German article I find it quite remarkable that knowledge and
treatment of MWD for the next century after 1878 had hardly changed. To mollify
any medics reading this file ; it was not until the 1970s that a more complete
view of these syndromes began to emerge and from the 1990s an understanding of
the background genetics emerged. These are very rare syndromes and it is to be
appreciated that the ordinary family doctor would never in all likelihood come
across anyone in his practise with these symptoms so to expect him to be aware
of them is somewhat unreasonable. Even a regional skeletal specialist consultant
may only come across a few such index cases in his working life. Of course he
will probably see more followup related people with these conditions.
If any medics reading this file are aware of any pain management techniques
for the painful versions of these sort of conditions your input would be
appreciated.
A couple of non-drug regime possible pain relief techniques. 1) T.E.N.S
Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator for alleviating pain. They are
battery powered pocket sized units costing in UK about 80 pounds (130 USD).
Produces electrical pulses to stick-on electrodes placed on the skin. Quote from
an instruction manual " TENS devices are used for the relief and management of
chronic (long term) intractable pain, post surgical and post traumatic pain
problems". 2) Years ago I made a "kummerbund" out of some space-blanket
material that completely nullified the pain of a bout of shingles around the
waist. My doctor did not believe me when I made a followup visit and I said I
had had no need for the prescription of heavy duty pain killers he had made out
2 weeks earlier and wasn't needed either. Someone told me heat was useful
against shingles but I had no hot-water bottle but I did have some of this mylar
,aluminised plastic, space blanket. Space blanket material is found in
camping/outdoor pursuit shops costing just a few dollars. It is the material
seen wrapped around marathon runners at the end of a race - sweaty bodies I
would have thought was the worst possible case for use but never mind. Don't
place immediately to the skin is it conducts heat out and radiates rather than
the intended radiating heat back into the body. For wrists cut a piece of space
blanket about 12 inches by 18 inches and fold 6 times down to 12x3 inches. Wrap
a strip of thin cloth around to enclose and seal the edges by sewing. Stick a
pad of hook velcro at one end and a strip of felt velcro where the overlap is
when wrapped around the wrist. It does rustle a bit.
3) For anyone finding typing difficult including people with RSI then computer
voice to text /speech recognition software has improved a lot recently. Once trained to your
own voice and in an otherwise quiet environment produces very few errors
in transcription these days. A useful test phrase for any such software is if
it can pick up the difference between spoken "recognise speech" and "wreck a nice beach"
each spoken in some sort of context to make it more realistic.
4) Saw Jerry Lewis promoting this pain management device
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/54/65247.htm?z=3064_00000_2010_00_05
for chronic back pain ( Medtronic / Tame the Pain / Pain Pacemaker , keywords ).
Don't know if it is relevant to MWD if anyone wishes to research.
5) Some tips that may as
well be in the general domain for sufferers of arthritis or anyone else with
weak or painful wrists. Techniques for opening "vacuum" sealed pickle or jam
jars. 1) Puncture lid with an awl/ brad-awl and cover hole with a gummed
label. or 2) Invert lid into a pan of just boiled hot water then turn upright
and unscrew or 3) Bash the lid (on the edge) with a sharp tap from a piece of wood about 2-3
inches square and 9 inches long
6) New drug Tocilizumab, for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, may
have some use for MWD.
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Wanneer u per email met Nederlandse lotgenoten in contact wil komen, mail
dan naar Paula (met als onderwerp Madelung, Lerie-Weill of
dyschondrosteosis) op
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Bill Newman ,Manchester
Dysplasias Research Group 0161 276 6506 Great Ormond St,Department of
Clinical Genetics (SHOX Gene research) 30 Guilford Street,London,WC1N
1EH
Simon Thomas, WRGL Genetics, Salisbury District Hospital, Salisbury ,Wiltshire, SP2 8B , England
The origins genetically is probably a balanced reciprocal
translocation of 2 genes technically 2;8(q32;p13) from American Journal of
Medical Genetics 16:p589,1983. [That is the 32 section on the long, q, arm of
the number 2 chromosome swapped with the 13 section of the short,p, arm of the
number 8 chromosome. After derivation of the karyotype (separated and stained
set of all the chromosomes) the long arm of chr 2 was obviously shortened and
the short arm of chr 8 was obviously longer.] More recently located to part of
the SHOX gene - Nature Genetics,p70,V19,May 1998. The SHOX gene is found in the
Pseudo-autosomal regions (PAR1) of the sex chromosomes ,these PAR1 are adjacent
to the ends (telomeres) of the p arms of the X and Y chromosomes. Although lying
on the sex chromosomes they have a lot of similarity to genes that would appear
on the non-sex, autosomal ,chromosomes hence pseudoautosomal. Suitable markers
for the XY genes would seem to be DXYS6814,DXYS233,DXYS228 and DXYS234. Areas of
interest are single C to T transition R195X,XY translocations p22,q12 and gene
Xp22.3 or Yq11. From reference 17 "........haploinsufficiency of SHOX (Short
stature homeobox- containing gene) is responsible for DCS,as affected families
carried either large scale deletions (7 of 8 families) or a truncating mutation
(1 family) of the gene.......... (haploinsuficiency relates to gene dosage
,if there is insufficient for the normal full transcription process). The
absence of Madelung deformity in some short stature patients with SHOX
mutations/ deletions (while others demonstrate both signs )remains an
unexplained paradox. The variable expression of DCS features in individuals
carrying terminal Xp deletions and XY unbalanced translocations similarly remains
unexplained and might be due to either sex-chromosome- specific regulation or
involvement of modifier genes".
From personal correspondence with a UK based researcher "....at present we
do not identify the genetic cause in LWD (Leri-Weill Deformity) in a proportion
of cases, but I know that other groups such as those of Gudrun Rappold in
Heidelberg and Judith Ross in America are continuing to research this. When the
gene for a condition is first discovered it is often the case that although it
provides a genetic explanation for a proportion of people, it does not do so for
everyone. As time goes by, different and more unusual genetic changes affecting
the same gene are discovered. It is even possible that the condition could be
caused by changes in genes other than SHOX. If some of the families who contact
you are interested in research, I would suggest that they are first seen by
their local Genetics department, and from here they can be put in touch with the
centres who are continuing research into SHOX/ LWD."
Communication from Gudrun Rappold March 2006
Besides SHOX, there is evidence that a second gene is present in the human
genome that, in its mutated form, causes an identical/ undistinguishable
phenotype of Léri-Weill dyschondrosteosis. We are presently collecting
families with Léri-Weill dyschondrosteosis that are not showing a SHOX
defect in the coding or regulatory region in order to carry out a whole
genome linkage analysis to pinpoint down this novel gene.
Maybe you have a well established clinical/radiological diagnosis of
"Léri-Weill dyschondrosteosis" but a SHOX mutation could not be confirmed
and maybe there are also several affected members in your family. In this
case I would be extremely interested in collaborating with you and I would
be glad if you could contact us (.......@med.uni-heidelberg.de).
SHOX Human Short Stature Gene -Summary of Mutations
Exon
Amino acid change/stop position
Nuclear change
Mutation type
Phenotype
2
N77X
197-198delCG
Frameshift
LWS
2
E61X
G272T
Nonsense
LWS
2
V75X
272delG
Frameshift
LWS
2
X
GT-IVS-AG
Frameshift
LWS
3
Q112X
G425T
Nonsense
LWS
3
L132V
C485G
Missense
LWS
3
E149X
G536T
Nonsense
LWS
3
R153L
G549T
Missense
LWS
3
K181X
572insGT
Frameshift
LWS
4
R173C
C608T
Missense
LWS
5
R195X
C674T
Nonsense
ISS
5
R195X
C674T
Nonsense
LWS
5
Y199X
C688G
Nonsense
LWS
6
A224T
G761A
Missense
ISS
6
delH229-L232
776-787delCĄ4aa
Deletion
ISS
Notes LWS - Leri-Weill Syndrome,ISS -
Ideopathic Short Stature Source reference [ 44 ] March
2002 Nothing so simple as one mutation leading to one clinical
manifestation. The above recorded mutations occur in a region of less than
200 Kbases at the telomeric end of the short arm which is about 10 Mbases from
telomere to centromere .
Some Pictures/Graphics from the following journal sources
But first
an internet site with a rarity a non-medical
picture of someone with MWD (Shelby's Corner, Stretch Magazine )
Graphics drawn from Xrays of
developement of MWD from ages 2 years,4 years and 6 years compared to normal (on
left) from reference 32 Graphics drawn from Xrays of
developement of MWD from ages 8 years,10 years and 12 years compared to normal
(on left) from reference 32
The above sequence of images show MWD of someone's right
arm from age 3 to 60 taken from family snap shots. The image ,age 10 ,
shows radial curvature. The last 2 images are after successful surgery.
Picture of the prominent ulna that
the medics call "necropsy appearance" of MWD that didn't carry through the
copying and scanning process very well from reference 6
"Bayonet" form of MWD of someone in this group
Close-up of the above
Two cases of
differing MWD from reference 5 below
A severe case of MWD before quasi-successful corrective surgery,
post operation on corresponding right arm shown in family album sequence above. Case of MWD from 1938 reference 12
below also showing the foreshortening of forearms and "muscle-bound" or
"popeye-arms" appearance. "Bayonet Wrist" and Xrays in 2
perpendicular views showing the curved forearm bones and exaggerated space
between leading to the "Popeye arm" or "muscle-bound" appearance from reference
16 Similar views with more pronounced curvature (hence muscular
appearance) from reference 17
A picture of someone with
mesomelia and MWD from ref 11. Unless you know what you are looking for the
difference between F forearm length and U upper arm length are not immediately
obvious. She also (from the X rays but not too apparent in this picture ) has
the curved bones of the forearm that give the "muscle-bound" or "popeye"
appearance. Note also (which was not referred to in the article) the wide nasal
bridge. Someone showing the effect in the lower leg from reference
Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery, Vol 64B,No 3,p377,1982
Pictures of the mesomelia foreshortening in forearms and lower legs does
not show too well but measuring of the bones does. The following is from 13
patients in one study, units are percentages compared to normal for that
person's height in metres and age, not all data taken All are female except the
last case.
from reference 8 below
From the Rappold book (ref 34 below) Anthropometric techniques
Upper Arm Length - Starting from the shoulder blade ,run finger laterally along ridge
of scapula to tip of acromion (acromiale), and mark this point. Identify
head of radius (caput radii or radiale) by paplpating space betwen humerus
and radius at elbow,until you feel the head of radius, and mark this
point. (when measuring make sure the marked points overlay the relevent
bony part)
Forearm (lower arm ) length - With arm hanging loosely and palm facing
forward, find styloid process of radius (processus styloideus or radial
stylion ) - most prominent bony landmark at lateral wrist. Mark this point.
Use previous upper arm mark .
Lower leg length (upper absent in this book) - Subject should be seated ,
with right ankle crossed over left knee. Find upper medial border of
tibia (tibiale or condylus medialis),by running finger down patella until
you reach tibial plateau,then move medially to edge of tibial plateau,
and mark this spot. Find sphyrion tibiale (most distal point of tibia) by
running finger upward from heel to point where tibia ends, a little
distal to most prominent point of malleolus medialis (medial malleolus)
and mark this point.
Medical Published Research in the Public Domain
1 American
Journ. Dis Child. 132,1978,p1037 Xrays of an affected individual at age 12 and
45 2 Acta Radiol. Diag. 11,1971,p459 -4 generations with DCS 3 Clinical
Pediatrics 1972,p281 -2 case studies,rather technical description 4 Italian
J. Orth. Trauma. 1975,p141 3 generations,includes a tibial surgical intervention
5 Am. J. Roent. 1965,Vol 95/1,p178 -tabulated data focus on knee Xrays 6
J. Bone Joint Surgery V58B,p350 Aug 1976-Good overview with fairly simple
terminology even if the title is wrong (Madelung Disease is a completely
different condition). 7 J. Med. Genet. 1980,17,p41 -2 generations of family
4 affected out of 6 people 8 Radiology 93,1969,p1037 -Technical but clear
X-rays and tabulated physiological data 9 Am. J. Dis.Child 120,1970,p329
-tabulated data of 8 patients 10 J. Pediatr. 68,No3,1966,p432 -Tabulated
dimensional data and good differential comparison with related syndromes 11
Am. J. Dis .Child. November 1971-Representative photos of wrist and forearm
appearance 12 Annals of Surgery 1938,p421 -17 pages lot of history,some
graphics and good picture of bayonet wrists 13 Clin. Orthop
1976,May,No116,p24 -3 families also first published record of male to male
transmission 14 Brit. J. Radiol. 47,1974,p634 -picture of male with
"muscle-bound" forearm appearance 15 Nature Genetics V19,May 1998 p70-73 -
Shox and DCS genetical analysis of 15 families up to 5 generations including a
family of 82 over 5 generations with 43 affected individuals ! 16 Nature
Genetics V19,May 1998 p67-69 - Shox mutations in dyschondrosteosis, pictures and
Xrays of "bayonet" MWD 17 American Journal of Medical Genetics 16:p589,1983
- 2;8(q32;p13) balanced reciprocal chromosome translocation and pictures of 4
family members showing Madelung wrists,mesomelia and cubitus valgas. 18 J.
Med. Genetics 2001;38 :323 SHOX point mutations in dyschondrosteosis
The above periodicals were on the shelves of the teaching library of
Southampton General Hospital with open public access.Similar collections of
medical research periodicals are probably at other teaching hospitals in the UK.
Holland and Tasmania has an open access policy for medical libraries but I don't
know about other countries. Two archaeological cases: 30 Nature vol
330,5 Nov 1987 Dwarfism in an adolescent from the Italian late Upper
Palaeolithic (Age) - Mesomelic dwarfism, relative shortening of forearms and lower legs
and also restricted elbow movement. Radio-carbon date 11,150 +/- 150 years, age at death
about 17 years and
accorded special funereal treatment. "one of the few caves in Italy with
parietal art. Thus, the site was an important social and/or ritual centre,
and it is clear from the limited number of burials in the cave that only
certain members of the population were of the status necessary to be
buried there."
31 Journal of Medical Genetics October 2000, 37(10)E27 A
Case of Dyschondrosteosis from Roman Britain
31b International Journal of Osteoarchaeology
Volume 18 Issue 4, Pages 431 - 437
Abstract,
Osteological examination of a 9th-11th century skeleton from Black Gate
Cemetery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, reveals Madelung's deformity of both
forearms and shortened stature due to reduced tibial length.
32 Text book : Congenital
Deformities of the Hand and Forearm by H. Kelikian ,1974,chapter22 -18 pages
including very clear drawings derived from Xrays showing developement of
Madelung wrists every 2 years from 2 yearold to 12 yearold and description of
surgical procedure to correct wrist deformity
34 In July 2002 Prof Dr Gudrun Rappold sent me a complimentary copy of her
book published 2002 Understanding SHOX deficiency and its role in growth
disorders: a reference guide by Gudrun A Rappold,Judith L Ross,Rüdiger J
Blaschke and Werner F Blum Publisher TMG Healthcare Communications Ltd,62
Stert St,Abingdon,Oxfordshire OX14 3UQ,UK ISBN 1 85113 265 1 A summary of
the 130 page book : Background to SHOX involvement in a number of stature
syndromes - Leri-Weill,Madelung,Langer,Turner,Ideopathic Short and triple x
(XXX). Introduction to molecular genetics zeroing-in specifically to the SHOX
gene. Introduction means introduction to practising endocrinologists and other
physicians, for anyone else it would need further study to comprehend this sort
of material. It covers the complex area going from details of the SHOX gene
through transcription into biochemistry and on to the clinical expression.
There are two useful glossaries: clinical terms and molecular biology terms
,colour-code referenced throughout the book. Appendices of genetic
codes,codes for amino acids,pedigree analysis symbols, anthropometric techniques
(to measure limb proportions etc) and anthropometric tables for ages 3 to 19
years for all the pertinent limb segments and list of abbreviations ( acronyms
). 40 Genome Research 1997 p1114 Man to Mouse-Lessons learned from the distal
end of the Human X Chromosome 41 J Med Genet 1992 29 p455 Short Stature in a
girl with a terminal Xp deletion distal to DXYS15... 42 J Med Genet 1999 36
p711 Loss of the SHOX gene associated with Leri-Weil .... 43 J of Clinical
Endoc & Meta 2000 p245 Identification of Short Stature caused by SHOX
defects and therapeutic effect of Recombinant Human Growth Hormone 44 J of
Clinical Endoc & Metab 2002 p1402 Deletions of the Homeobox Gene SHOX are an
important cause of growth failure in children with short stature. 45 Proc Nat
Ac Sc March 1998 p2406 SHOT,a SHOX related homeobox gene... 46 Proc Nat Acad
Sc Oct 1996 p10691 Cloning and characterization of four murine homeobox
genes 47 J Med Genet 1995 32 p831 Short stature in a girl with partial
monosomy of the pseudoautosomal region distal to DXYS15.... 48 J of Clinical
Endoc & Met 2001 p5674 Phenotypes associated with SHOX deficiency 49 J
Med Genet 2001p323 SHOX point mutations in Dyschondrosteosis
50 Ann. Otol. Rhinol. Laryngol 112 (2003 ) p153 Congenital Conductive Hearing Loss in Dyschondrosteosis
51 J. Clin Endoc. Metab. ,Oct 2003, 88 (10) p4891 Auxology is a valuable instrument for the
clinical diagnosis of SHOX Haploinsufficiency in school-age children with unexplained
short stature.
52 Brit J. of Haematology 121, p375 Pseudosomal linkage of familial Hodkins Lymphoma :
Molecular analysis of a unique family with Leri-Weill Dyschondrosteosis and H L.
A few useful sites are:- An overview
of the Medline accessible references OMIM site Medline Site
Medical Journals (abstracts
only for us non-medics) Background to a ,discontinued , court
case where the mother was lying about her husband being the
biological father to her daughter who
had the appearance of MWD and her son who had the appearance of DCS.
The husband had no family
history of MWD or DCS but someone else did have such a family history. MWD raised in a
court case relating to a works injury Newspaper story concerning DCS and growth hormone
I've grown 1cm since January
Mar 9 2007
By Peter Henn
A GIRL who suffers from a genetic disorder has won the right to NHS drugs that will help her grow.
...
He added: “It’s good the PCT changed its mind after the YA’s campaign, but it was wrong to not give her treatment, especially when it has proven so effective.”
South East Essex Primary Care Trust confirmed Chloe’s circumstances had changed, but said it could not speak about the case as it was a confidential matter.
FACTBOX:
*Leri-Weill Dyschondrosteosis (LWD) was first diagnosed by French neurologists Andre Leri and Jacques Weill.
*It is a form of dwarfism marked by forearm and wrist deformities.
*Sufferers of the syndrome are only expected to reach a maximum height of 140 cm.
*Genotropin is a drug used to fight growth defects, and helps people with the problems reach a more normal height.
A course of the drug costs the taxpayer between Ł122 and Ł278, but individual shots can range from Ł4.64 to Ł46.37.
A summary of this file
The method I used for doing medical research into MWD (Madelung Wrist
Deformity) and DCS (Dyschondrosteosis).
The technique is probably applicable to other rare medical conditions.
Some other names for these conditions and associated medical terms.
Genetic background to MWD and DCS
Two recognizable people who may have the appearance of
these conditions.
Two simple tests that in conjunction with X-rays etc could lead to a
diagnosis of MWD.
Numerous (anonymized) personal stories of people with MWD or DCS who have
contacted me.
For anyone who would like to join this, closed group, mailing list my contact
details are at the end of these personal stories.
Some of the published research articles in the medical periodicals on MWD
and DCS.
Un sommaire de ce dossier La méthode que j'ai
employée pour faire la recherche médicale dans MWD (défaut de forme de poignet
de Madelung) et DCS (Dyschondrosteosis). La technique est probablement
applicable ŕ d'autres conditions médicales rares. Quelques autres noms pour ces
conditions et limites médicales associées.
Fond génétique ŕ MWD et ŕ DCS.
Deux personnes fameuses qui pourrait
avoir l'aspect / fond de ces conditions. Deux essais simples qu'en męme temps
que des rayons X etc.. pourrait developer ŕ un diagnostic des histoires
personnelles (anonymes) de MWD. Numerous des personnes avec MWD ou DCS qui m'ont
contacté. N'importe qui voudrait joindre ceci, groupe fermé, expédiant la liste
mes détails de contact sont ŕ la fin de ces histoires personnelles. Certains des
articles édités de recherches dans les périodiques médicaux sur MWD et DCS..
Een samenvatting van deze pagina
De methode, die ik gebruikte voor medisch onderzoek in MWD (Madelung
Pols Afwijking) en DCS (Dyschondrosteosis). De techniek is vermoedelijk
toepasbaar op andere ongewone medische aandoeningen. Sommige andere
namen voor deze aandoeningen en geassocieerde medische termen.
Genetische achtergrond bij Mwd en DCS. Twee mensen in het openbaar, die
misschien de karakteristieken / achtergrond van deze aandoening
bezitten. Twee eenvoudige testen die samen met RÖNTGENFOTO'S enz.
zouden kunnen leiden tot een diagnose van MWD.
Talrijke (geanonimiseerde) persoonlijke verhalen van mensen met MWD of
DCS, die met mij contact op hebben genomen. Wie zich aan zou willen
sluiten bij deze (gesloten) groep-emaillijst, kan contact met mij
opnemen (zie aan het einde van deze persoonlijke verhalen voor
contactgegevens).
Sommige van de gepubliceerde onderzoeksartikelen in de medische
tijdschriften over MWD en DCS.
Wanneer u per email met Nederlandse lotgenoten in contact wil komen, mail
dan naar Paula (met als onderwerp Madelung, Lerie-Weill of
dyschondrosteosis) op
mailto:PK_1976@hotmail.co.....m (verwijder
de 5 puntjes tussen "co" en "m")
Eine Zusammenfassung dieser Datei Die Methode,
die ich für das Tun der medizinischen Forschung in MWD (Handgelenkmißbildung
Madelung) und in DCS (Dyschondrosteosis) verwendete. Die Technik ist vermutlich
auf andere seltene medizinische Bedingungen anwendbar. Einige andere Namen für
diese Bedingungen und dazugehörigen medizinischen Bezeichnungen.
Genetischer Hintergrund zu MWD und zu DCS.
Zwei Leute im
allgemeinen Auge, das das Aussehen / den Hintergrund dieser Bedingungen haben
konnte. Zwei einfache Tests, die in Verbindung mit Röntgenstrahlen usw. zu einer
Diagnose (der anonymised) persönlichen Geschichten MWD. Numerous der Leute mit
MWD oder DCS führen könnte, die mit mir in Verbindung getreten haben. Jedermann,
das dieses verbinden möchte, geschlossene Gruppe, Liste sendend meine
Kontaktdetails sind am Ende dieser persönlichen Geschichten. Einige der
erschienenen Forschungsartikel in den medizinischen Zeitschriften auf MWD und
DCS..
Un resumen de este fichero El método que
utilicé para hacer la investigación médica en MWD (deformidad de la muńeca de
Madelung) y DCS (Dyschondrosteosis). La técnica es probablemente aplicable a
otras condiciones médicas raras. Algunos otros nombres para estas condiciones y
términos médicos asociados.
Fondo genético a MWD y a DCS.
Dos personas en el ojo público que pudo tener el
aspecto / el fondo de estas condiciones. Dos pruebas simples que conjuntamente
con radiografías el etc podría conducir a una diagnosis de las historias
personales (anonymised) de MWD. Numerous de la gente con MWD o DCS que me han
entrado en contacto con. Cualquier persona que quisiera ensamblar esto, grupo
cerrado, enviando la lista mis detalles del contacto están en el final de estas
historias personales. Algunos de los artículos publicados de la investigación en
los periódicos médicos en MWD y DCS..
Um sumário desta
lima O método que eu me usei fazendo a pesquisa médica em MWD (deformity
do pulso de Madelung) e em DCS (Dyschondrosteosis). A técnica é provavelmente
aplicável a outras circunstâncias médicas raras. Alguns outros nomes para estes
circunstâncias e termos médicos associados.
Fundo genetic a MWD e a DCS.
Dois povos no olho público que pôde
ter a aparęncia / fundo destas circunstâncias. Dois testes simples a que
conjuntamente com raios X etc. poderia conduzir a um diagnóstico de histórias
pessoais (anonymised) de MWD. Numeroso dos povos com MWD ou DCS que me
contataram. Qualquer um que gostaria de juntar este, grupo closed, enviando a
lista meus detalhes do contato estăo no fim destas histórias pessoais. Alguns
dos artigos publicados da pesquisa nos periodicals médicos em MWD e em DCS..
Sammanfattning Metoden som har använts för att
söka efter medicinsk information om om Madelungs deformitet (MWD) samt
Dyschondrosteos (DCS även kallat Leri-Weils syndrom), kan användas för att söka
efter information om andra sjukdomar. (Vet du inte hur man lättast söker efter
information i databaser kan du vända dig till närmaste bibliotek - de brukar
ordna kurser i informationssökning som ofta är gratis.) Här nämns tvĺ offentliga
personer som eventuellt kan tänkas ha dessa sjukdomar. Det beskrivs vidare tvĺ
enkla tester som kan komplettera röntgenundersökning för att fastställa en
diagnos av Madelungs deformitet.
Genetisk bakgrund för Madelungs deformitet och dyskondrosteos.
Personliga berättelser frĺn personer som har
kontaktat gruppen finns även publicerade pĺ den här sidan, liksom referenser
till publicerat material samt länkar till sajter/databaser där man kan söka
efter mer information. De som vill komma i kontakt med den här slutna gruppen
kan nĺ mig via adressen längst ner pĺ sidan.
Un sommario
di questo documento Il metodo che ho usato per fare la ricerca medica su
MWD (deformitŕ del polso di Madelung) e su DCS (Dyschondrosteosis). La tecnica č
probabilmente applicabile ad altre malattie rare. Altri nomi per queste malattie
e termini medici associati.
Prioritŕ bassa genetica a MWD ed a DCS.
Due persone famose che sembrano avere queste
malattie. Due prove semplici che insieme con i raggi X ecc potrebbero condurre
ad una diagnosi del MWD. Numerose storie anomine di persone con MWD o DCS che si
sono messe in contatto con me. Chiunque voglia unirsi a questo gruppo chiuso,
alla mailing list. I miei recapiti sono alla conclusione di queste storie
personali. Alcuni degli articoli di ricerca pubblicati nei periodici medici su
MWD e su DCS..
סיכום של הקובץ הזה בעברית
השיטה שהשתמשתי בשביל לעשות מחקר רפואי בעניין MWD
( Madelung Wrist Deformity שורש היד של מאדאלאנג )
ו DCS ( דיסצ'ונדרוסטאוסיס ) היא טכניקה שקרוב לוודאי ניתן ליישם גם עבור
ליקויים בריאותיים נדירים אחרים.
ישנם כמה שמות נוספים לליקויים ולמונחים הרפואיים האלה.
רקע גנטי לגבי MWD ו DCS : שתי אוכלוסיות שבעיני הציבור אולי יהיו בעלי
ההופעה/ רקע של התנאים האלה.
שני מבחנים פשוטים שביחד עם רנטגנים וכו' יכלו להוביל לדיאגנוזה של MWD .
סיפורים אישיים של אנשים (בעילום שם) עם MWD או DCS שפנו אלי.
לכל אחד שרוצה להצטרף לקבוצה הסגורה של רשימת הנמענים שברשותי,
ישנם פרטי התקשרות אלי בסוף הסיפורים האישיים האלה.
כמה מהמאמרים של המחקר על MWD וDCS שהתפרסמו בכתבי העת הרפואיים.
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2001, 29 contacts plus 12 previously
^L in Sweden
^R in UK
^M in the UK
^M in Holland
^ R2 in the UK
^ T in Canada
^ L in Canada
^ D2 in e-m contact
^ C3 in the USA
^ S in the UK
^ D2 in the USA
^ S2 in the USA
^ K in the USA
^ B in New Zealand
^ J in the USA
^ R2 in the USA
^ M in Canada
^ C in Australia
^ L in Northern Ireland
^ A2 in the USA
^ M in Australia
^ M2 in Canada
^ W in the USA
^ L2 in Canada
^ H in the USA
^ S2 in the UK
^ S in New Zealand
^ J2 in the USA
^ S3 in the USA
2002, 23 contacts
From V in the UK by contact by telephone
From S4 in the USA in e-m contact
From G in the UK in e-m contact
From L in the USA in e-m contact
From S5 in the USA in e-m contact
From K2 in the USA in e-m contact
From J3 in the USA in e-m contact
From J4 in the USA in e-m contact
From S6 in the USA in e-m contact
From I in Holland in e-m contact
From C4 in the USA in e-m contact
From G in the USA in e-m contact
From J5 in the USA in e-m contact
From J6 in the USA in e-m contact
From B in Australia in e-m contact
From S in Australia in e-m contact
From K3 in the USA in e-m contact
From L2 in the USA in e-m contact
From J7 in the USA in e-m contact
From C5 in the USA in e-m contact
From L in the UK in e-m contact
From M3 in Canada in e-m contact
From M4 in Canada in e-m contact
Up to April 2003 USA D3 76 contacts
2003, 24 contacts
S7 in the USA [ CL ] MWD
M2 in the USA [ CL ] MWD and DCS
A in Canada [ CL ] MWD
T in the USA [ CL ] MWD
K4 in the USA [ CL ] MWD
A2 in Canada [ CL ] MWD and DCS
A3 in Holland [ CL ] MWD
A3 in the USA MWD
M in Norway MWD
D3 in the USA MWD
M3 in the USA snail-mail MWD
L in New Zealand [ CL ] MWD
M4 in the USA [ CL ] MWD
F in Chile MWD
? in England (NW) MWD + DCS
N in the USA MWD + DCS
M2 in Australia [ CL ] MWD + DCS
L2 in the UK [ CL ] MWD + DCS
D in Australia [ CL ] MWD
E in the uk [ CL ] MWD
A4 in the USA [ CL ] MWD
M5 in Canada, MWD + DCS
H in the UK, MWD
S2 in Australia [ CL ] MWD
23 (24 - B in the uk , to 2005) contacts in 2004
M5 in the USA
J in N Ireland
L in Australia
E in the USA
H in the USA
S2 in the UK
C in the UK
T in Australia
UK telephone contact
K5 in the USA
J-? in ?
A3 in Canada
C2 in the UK
A4 in Canada
S4 in the UK
K6 in the USA
M-? in ?
A5 in the USA
K7 in the USA
M2 in Holland
C6 in the USA
J2 in the UK
? in Peru,
20 Contacts in 2005
M6 in the USA
J8 in the USA
N in Israel
P in uk?
B2 in the USA
D4 in the USA
B in the UK ,Scotland
T2 in Canada
K8 in the USA
C7 in the USA
L3 in the USA
C3 in the UK
L3 in the UK
H2 in the USA
A6 in the USA
P in the USA
S8 in the USA
S3 in Australia
S9 in the USA
A7 in the USA
19 contacts in 2006
S10 in the USA
C4 in the UK
I in Israel
J9 in the USA
T2 in Australia
B in Brazil
L in Denmark
S11 in the USA
J10 in the USA
J in Holland
A8 in the USA?
T2 in the UK
S12 in the USA
S13 in the USA
G2 in the USA
J11 in the USA
L3 in Canada
From a medical director of Red Cross in _ _, Mexico
In 2008
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A11 in the USA ,
B2 in the UK ,
D6 in the USA ,
J12 in the USA ,
K in the UK ,
L2 in Australia ,
M2 in the UK ,
M9 in the USA, (i
R3 in the USA ,
S3 in the UK ,
T2 in the UK ,
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Madelung
Deformity. embarassed short arms
recommended doctor who specializes
tentative 'diagnosis' MWD DCS
physical appearence, information physical
appearence Cortozone
injections ( Trauma induced )
grandfather apparently my
appearence is much more noticable.
madelungs deformity significant change
pain every day
didnt realise really
apprehensive Ilazorov
frame advice or
contribution appointment discuss different types of operations
that have been tried before.
wretched deformity.
surgery was not the way to go. best surgeon ulna nob the bone
(wrist to elbow) to protect the bone. This arm responded
gets sore but the pain wrist nob. The wrist
can now flex.
surgeries
First surgery massive bone plate didn't stay attached.
pelvis
bone new plate installed.
come loose
Cannot lift fingers like being in a
fist position and middle 2 fingers will not straighten out.
remove the plate, take a tendon reconnect the tendon.
tendon to those fingers
ruptured due to riding over the plate
"the looks of the arm."
"just a little piece"
of the pelvis or hipbone.
arm was very bowed and the bowed bone
look better? a severe case.
shape influence
such a difficult decision... lived in casts
The casts go fingers to shoulder.
great grandmother protruded bone at her wrist.
aunt remembered
women were very short and had the heavy wrists.
unknown shared common ancestor great great-grandmother
good condition surgeries on my arms.
grandmother's Mom and
Grandmother Grandma's Mom stuck a needle into the bone to drain the fluid.
great-aunt, protruding bone s a slight curvature. curvatures.
discuss my arm looking at my arms. cannot be fixed. acknowledge my arms
were
different.
show them your arms." Mom or g-mom's arms. arms hurt.
grand-daughter has the protruding bone, but no pain or curvature.
size of others wrists have very heavy wrists and big hands.
- removed the plate.
- shaved down the ulna bone.
- the ruptured tendons could be repaired, so....he reattached them to the fingers.
- he split the scar tissue in the wrist, tendon repair area, scar tissue
and never can come undone.
- next, he moved the wrist back in line as it was dropping down and attached it so maybe with luck it can't come loose and drop down again.
"reverse kleinert" splint.
angles have all changed. reconnect the severed tendons to my fingers, slowly stretch the tendons out and make the fingers work. raise my fingers up, just trying to lower them to the flat part of the cast. she molded the cast to me, then attached the arched bar across the top and started connecting the fingers into the little slings for each one.
ran into a problem when the little finger refused to stay in line. it tends to stray all over the place without my knowledge. roaming fingers! the therapist cast loose piece of cast below it. slings are a piece of suede lay flat on the cast.
reconnect the tendons
fingers as they had all ruptured. tendons to the fingers
bone mass in the wrist. anti-inflammatory called norgesic
medication, kidney failure tylenol 3's with codeine kidney specialist.
using pain killers and surgery. rapid decline.
orthopedic surgeon,
ulna bones back, nothing that can be done definite good
outcome. a growth hormone problem
x-rayed orthapedic surgeon not
finished growing, an Australian family history or short arm stature
being disabled vacuuming.
american female slightly nervous
hearing that i have a deformity mild carpal tunnel syndrome x-rays. my pain strength in my left wrist.
loss of strength overwhelming pain
t follow up appointment madelung's in my left hand. have bilateral
madelung's! pain came overusage
soft splint for my wrist comfortable to sleep in B-6 vitamins.
daughter's madelung Each generation has progressively worsened.
live with increased pain refuse to allow the pain to dictate my life.
range of motion is severely limited, , you improvise. good percentage
of positive results. physicians stopped growing- pop my wrists, wear
supports, etc. complete simple tasks. surgery despite pain, positive
feedback
dwarfed- geographical data. Norway. primarily frustrated
lack of options to fix my wrists, physically capable of, pain is a
side factor left hand is numb as I type. to be worsening (especially
in range of motion), more precautions not to overuse them. quitting my
display job. righthanded right hand is worse emedicine data
specialists for advice regresses by generation, progressively gotten
worse. scan bilateral talipes was diagnosed, very detailed scan a
relatively short femur.
paediatrician shortening of the long bones on both his arms and his legs. His wrists have a 'broken' look and the middle finger on his right hand appears to have a knuckle, unable to bend it.
consultant clinical genticist in plaster casts for treatment of the
talipes definately abnormal finding upper limbs
ulnar deviation of the hands at the wrists relative shortening of
the ulna in relation to the radius on both forearms. There was aloso
incurving of the little fingers - clinodactyly. light shortening of
the humeri, which are the bones in the arm between shoulder and elbow,
and femori, whch are the thighbones. shortening of the forearms more
noticeable in the unlae than in the radii."
long-term future age-group
husband was only diagnosed
doctors to listen to him. Leri Weil and Madelung along with
the short stature. run in his family the short stature, and the
Madelung
The blood results man's shox test Leri Weil and
Madelung along with the short stature.
high frequencies) was just a curse - all left-handed.
Madelungs' "straighten her wrist".
believes our deformity it is not
something to be discussed deformity throughout her body, and is very small for
her age and frail.
Husband of wheelchair-bound wife with arthritis-like problem really large wrist bones orthopedic dr for a shoulder problem.
I held my arms out.
called Madalins Deformity mother's family biological family history.
madalungs deformity. I feel powereless
bilateral madelung wrists gradually increased in size and the pain has been unbearable at times.
left is more abnormal
vein is so prominent anti inflamatories and pain killers Dihyracodine. a hand surgeon shortening the bone and putting in a plate or removing the bone. e removing the bone people suffering their wrist clicking which is more painful,
Madelungs
excrutiating pain daily.
growing pains.
surgery (hip bone)
back the motion l cause me pain.
stress damage and arthritis
elbows down. My fingers are
constantly swollen and my joints(fingers) are turning
purple.
diseases worse crippling pain
knees and back have always bothered me too.
symptoms are related gymnasts wrist deformity
similar symptoms
boney lump at the end of her ulna sticks
gymnastics large calves in proportion to our size. Does it sound to you that she might have it? Does every one who has it develop pain? will she be able to carry on with gymnastics,both imeadiatly before she sees the G.P. and repeated microtrauma Madelungs deformity
madelungs wrist deformity. sprained my wrist and x-rays experiencing severe pain
baby finger and shoot up to my elbow,
numbness in both hands, fumbling things and dropping things. y wrists were permanently dislocated. golfers elbow. Orthopedic Dr.
severe childhood injury
X-rays of the wrist e lack of ulna joint). , wear & tear
on a sub-optimal joint. The lag between trauma and condition
developed 'backwards', the radius stopped
growing prematurely (chipped growth plate we think) and the ulna continued
Ulna protruded severly 'simple' excision of the (distal) third of the ulna.
The floating bone fragment post-op
calcification,severed end of the ulna proper
range of motion post-op
wrist injury or wrist pain d tendonitis cortisol injections orthopedic
hand surgeon repeatative motion all day. ganglion cysts arthritis,
carpal tunnel syndrome - to over-worked wrists almost unbearable.
semi-fist position using my thumbs and point fingers.
. My spine feels bruised
massage therapy
experience such symptoms. Sweden e severe back pain as well ..
diagnosed with scoliosis of the spine orthopedic says .. Holland.
Dyschondrosteosis.
e I had Leri-weil.. Leri-weil,
I've got a family member getting pain.
cut the longer bone back straighten the bowed bone. visibly crooked
or bowed odd angle, pain in my arms and they are very weak. cannot
lift something dislocating my elbow. Neurofibromatosis. Misshapen bones
website address by my doctors.
carry out some research at the time,
breaking my arms and lengthening them
with metal rods. are a third shorter than everyone else.
or archived as it keeps disappearing "Kids with Madelung "
h no pain in my wrists
having short arms is: school - children are very
honest on what they see. Buying clothes, like jumpers,
shirts exercise and weight lifting family history, my older sister
Great Aunt, picture she had it in her legs
future children located the gene and can sup
remove it a lot of pain breaking the bones rods and stretching them straight.
both arms and both legs. a growth spurt lot of pain involved. He is
short for his age, sucess stories Leri-Weil pain anymore.
I have madelungs and I was curious to know if you would
I'd be willing to give you some constructive critisism, if you're
inclined
of a similar problem in Australia which was helped by
orthopedist
acts genetically addicted to Dihyracodine advised me not to discuss
it with my gp and has
arms are shorter bad feet with platfus (pes planus, flat foot )
bilateral wrist pain birth defect Both carry high risks both Madelungs
and dyschondrosteosis both my wrists were abnormal both wrists
brother shows some signs calcified since i have limited movement in
that wrist comes from my fathers side condition for years without
knowing I had it conducted both tests in the office consultation
correct diagnosis corrective surgery on my left arm coughing up blood
created a prosthetic daughter had weird shaped wrists deformed right
arm diagnosed as bilateral madelung wrists diagnosed at a young age
diagnosed prior to the onset of pain diagnosed with madelung
diagnosed with Madelung's Deformity of her left wrist dianosied
discuss my condition disenchanted and overwhelmed doctor had never
heard of the deformity doctor knows what to test me for does not want
to engage in any competitive sport doing typing at school even shorter
forearm experience with the ilizarov technique experiencing extreem
pain and discomfort in my anles extensive research on various genetic
wrist deformities family being normal height finally have a diagnosis
finger bones are fused For your information and individual research,
I wanted to let you know that Tyelonel for the pain in my wrists, local health center,
diagnosed as tendinitis... Physicians Assistant second opinion, soo persistant (stubborn?)...my
right wrist was and still is worse than my left. corrective surgery
performed on my right wrist when I was 16 years old.
50/50 chance of the surgery
Mobility and rotation did improve, cut off the end of my
Ulna, far outgrew my Radius, twisted causing a severe V trench, metacarpals
were getting "crunched" in. An arthography test breakage of cartilage, but wrist
brace..
tendons and ligaments pain killers/medication, ibriprofin severely wrenched for some
bayonet type of MWD, fat forearm. protruding Ulna I am also very short (5 foot, 1 inch), very short limbs, .a wide nose. :-) good
hearing, hearing test
"pidgeon-toed" feet. wear braces as a baby,
knee and back
problems. bones are thick and akward, y stocky, and my joints hurt
often.
unusually short Ulna. "preventative maintenance" madelungs deformity in
the wrist, gymnast didn't heal properly,
small
for her age measured with all joints measuring
different, growth hormone growth a boost,severe problems with her knees,
hyperextended knees physio.
Modelung deformity and leri Weill syndrome DNA (SHOX) test, deformity by Ultra Sound pregnancy? Adult Idiopathic Scoliosis multiple surgeries, fusions with
hardware and reconstructions and revisions NYC Orthopedic Doctor hand
Specialist wrist arthogram impacted ulnar. genetic bone deformity as my scoliosis
My knees are lacking cartilage from the shifting of my spine
and hips and I have had several knee arthroscopy's.
Hand Specialist in
(called Darrah Procedure?)
screw,
rods, a cage at S-1, mesh between the two removed ribs, bone
dowels and heaven knows what else. carpal
tunnel or just arthritus, rare genetic bumped them.
Ulna was quite prominent.
bone
fused no movement in my wrist whatsoever.
Orthaepedic Specialist.
ganglions??
bilateral Madelung's deformity with a blocked supination
Operation: Osteotomy bone graft and T plate fixation left radius. Osteotomy
and six hole plate left ulna.
Incision: Longitudinal incision over the dorsal ulnar aspect of the left
ulna. Distal half of forearm. Second longitudinal incision on the
radio-palmar aspect of the distal third of the radius.
Prcedure: Through the dorsal incision the incision was carried down
between EDM and ECU. An osteotomy of the shaft of the ulna was performed
three inches from the ulna head. A one centimetre block of ulna was
removed.
Through the radial incision an osteotomy was performed about one inch
proximal to the radio-carpal joint. The dorsal cortex was kept in
continuity. An extension ostetomy was performed. Part of the excised
ulna block was fashioned into a wedge shape to provide a dorsi-flexion
osteotomy of about six millimetres on the palmar aspect wedged to fit into
the opening osteotomy. The osteotomy site was held with a T shaped plate
with two holes proximal to the osteotomy site and three holes in the
trnsverse part of the plate distally.
distal part of the ulna
palmar osteotomy effect. A six hole DCP
compression plate osteotomy site.
passive supination was to 60degrees and
pronation full. There was 70degrees of flexion and 70degrees of extension.
Tourniquet was let down, haemostasis obtained. Copious washout, closure
to fat and subcuticular to skin. Wounds were dressed and a forearm
plaster splint applied.
Indications: Madelung's deformity right wrist.
Operation: Right radial opening wedge osteotomy and shortening osteotomy of right ulna.
Procedure: Right upper limb exsanguinated tourniquet applied under general anaesthetic.
The ulna was approached along its subcataneous border and 6mm trapezoid removed such that slight flexion would be imparted to the ulna. The radius was then approached from the volar aspect through the bed of the FCR tendon. The pronator quadratus was lifted from the radial aspect of the radius to expose the proximal radius. A three hole T plate was the fixed to the bone in slight ulna angulation so that the deformity would be reduced on evetual fixation. Osteotomy was the performed at the radius leaving a dorsal-radial hinge and the bone jacked out 4mm at the ulna volar side using the graft from the ulna. Fixation was then completed using a six hole small fragment DCP on the ulna. Wounds closed in layers after haemostasis obtained with 2.0 Proline to the skin, standard dressing.
Interposition arthroplasty of right distal ulna.
Procedure: Under GA tourniquet control the previous incision was opened.
DCP plate, screws and a Kirschner wire were removed. Approximately 1cm
of the ulna was resected where the sudoarthrosis had reformed. The
flexor surface of the ulna was stripped of periosteum and this flap
folded over the proximal ulna through drill holes covering the bone end.
Extensor carpi ulnaris was clipped longitudinally, rolled to an anchovy
and secured to the distal portion of the ulan with drill holes with 4.0
Ticron and 3.0 Vicryl.
Assessment: Rotation then showed 70degrees of passive supination, full
pronation. The dorsal branch of the ulna nerve was identified and traced
distally. Haemostasis was achieved, the wounds were washed out with
saline and closure performed over a Redivac drain with 3.0 Vicryl.
"anchovy procedure" rolling up
of tendons as a spacer )
limestone
(calcium) beguile in blood very. children's health centre
I am anesthesiologist and pain specialist (Brasil). intra-uterine life, your Ultrasound present "shortning of long bones"
(umero femur ulna radio tibia peroneo) Your cariotic is 46,X,add(x) (p22.3) -
SHOX gen. The geneticist (ulnar desviation.....).
Denmark Growth hormones?
two half-siblings.
prominent distal ulna")lumps on my wrists,long sleeve shirts, anomally I
unacceptable protruding/prominent ulna ends, "ball-type" features (protruding ulna) cosmetic anomolies
corrective
surgery on my wrists,
personal experiences with
Madelung's Deformity. MD as a "symptom" of LW/DCS. carrying heavy
groceries) 'wrong' movements, layman's language?
geneticist. 50/ 50 chance of passing it on. bloods were taken for the DNA
and SHOX genes testing. worrried sick of passing this on. bones in his lower arm were reversed. lower arm too My wrist is big and painful reversed bone theory
fingers are starting to freeze up.
hands were very
crooked monster movie. hands became so bad. "funny wrists"
gunea pig technical jargon miscarrying endocrinologist that the Hodgkins ( which my sister also had)
and the Madulungs( which my mother also shows signs of) are linked in a
shox mutation.
IVF PGD
big calves! Florida. Madelungs
Deformity My arms
are noticably 2 different lengths. 3D x-rays. full mobility Canada Mexico
orthopedics surgeon
friend whom had similiar shaped wrists functionality is very good
genetic error good candidate for surgery gradually increased in size
grandparents are short, but not pathologically great surgeon guinea
pig hard to keep job because my wrist is constantly sore have had
anti inflamatories and pain killers but they are no use helped a
little bit but i still have problems Hi, my name is B_ from
Hi, my name is S _ from Sydney Australia. My 11 year old niece as just
been
homeopathy, as I am a trained homeopath huge decision to operate hurt
beyond description and take pain meds I am a 25 year old female who
has had
I am considering surgery I came across your site while browsing for
info recently. I like your site. I cannot lift things over 2 kg's
I could not turn my wrist palm up to throw under handed I do not feel
like an alien I drop lots of things I have just been (original contact
in mid 2004 )
I have never known exactly what is wrong or if there is a name for this
I noticed she has had chubby wrists from birth I thought you might want
the information for your site. If you have
I tried reading and understanding your article on DCSMWD but got lost
I want more info I would welcome some support i'm left handed also
immature skeletal system immediate famly impact her teen life In
short - at present we don't know of anyone else with MWD. increasingly
bothersome as I age I've just finished reading your site, I came upon
it in my search for a just been diagnosed with Madelung Deformity just
dx with this condition lack of expertise lack of knowledge I have
encountered thus far in the medical profession large calves and have
a stocky bone structure left hand is smaller than the right and her arm
is 2.5 cm shorter legs situation is also partly a deformity Leri Weill
is prevalent Leri Weill sufferers Leri Weill sufferers Leri Weill
syndrome Leri Weill syndrome and as a part of my Leri Weill, madelungs
deformity limited movement of both wrists vertically and horizontally
limited wrist movement Madelung appearance Madelung Deformity
madelung deformity with knobs on Madelungs Madelung's Deformity
Madelungs deformity since birth Madelung's Disease making a conscious
effort to use my left Manhattan manifestation Many Thanks for the
good Work you are doing. medical jargon metal plate about 5 inches
attached to my ulna micro-surgery mimics the DRUJ (distal radio ulnar
joint) mother had this affliction movement tests movement was a
little odd My 8 year old daughter has
my arm hung by my side at an odd angle My daughter E, now 15, was
my elbow touching my side and my forearm facing upwards my left is
more abnormal My name is H - I am 33 years old and have had problems
with my wrist My parents didn't notice my
My wrists are so painful at the moment N1L,N1R, P1 and P2, although
they were not measured never go away and it can never be fixed never
noticed anything else abnormal New Mexico USA no pain associated with
her wrists normal activities not able to extend her arm fully with her
palm up not exactly a giant not make me much taller it would prevent
any pain not pathologically shorter not showing signs of further
growth nothing to worry about numb after prolonged use of hands off
sick for a month often wears
options ran out orthapedic surgeon's words Orthopadist Orthopaedist
orthopedic surgeon osteo arthritis and poly neuropathy in my legs and
arms paediatric orthapedic surgeons pain is tolerable pain would be
worse after sugery pains in my leg Pediatric Orthopedist perform a
genetic test physical signs of the abnormalities physician in NYC
prevent pain in Leri Weill producing more with this affliction
progression of the deformity between the 8-15 age period progressive
progressiveness of this deformity pure aesthetic reasons putting in a
plate or removing the bone questioning radiologist had heard of
Madelung Deformity radiology pictures on your site radiology
techincian also had never heard of the deformity recommend surgury
relatively short removing the bone reports of people suffering from
their wrist clicking reset the bone giving it a straighter appearance
and to make me
same problems scanned
see a hand surgeon in see even one person who had this self dianosed
myself severly in both wrists short arms and legs, but not excessively
so shortening the bone similarities between this woman's wrists and
my daughter's wrists situation has fully stabilized specialist about
my wrist as well due to pain ssa disability still not operated on
still remains in pain stomach problems from pain killers surgeon in
Kentucky Surveillance Specialist, Birth Defect Monitoring Division, _
Dept. of State Health Services, USA testimonies I have read on this
site Thak you so much for all the information on your web site. You've
put in so Thank you for your work on this site. My name is M and I am
from _ , New York. My daughter, who is 13 was recently diagnosed with
this deformity and surgery has been recommended by a
Thanks The 14yo daughter of a friend has just been diagnosed with
three surgeries on her arms tossing a ball back and forth treated with
growth hormone treatment treatment would prevent any discomfort as I
got older try to correct the problem unbearable at times various
skeletal deformities vein is so prominent very limited range of
motion very uneasy feeling virtually no use with my right wrist
visibly shorter (5feet)
Work carried out a work station assessment wrist area year later
my body rejected the plate
"wrist deformity". exact same wrists having pain in my wrists, on and off, since I
weird shape of my wrists deformity has gradually increased "just the
way it is" further medical help. pain in one of my thumbs and my little
finger. stress ball to strengthen my joints. The pain
started to spread throughout both of my hands. wondering if Madelungs can cause pain in finger joints? I keep
getting needle-like pain in my fingers and knuckles. Sometimes they feel a
bit hot and swollen. shorter than they should be measurements
your forearms should be in length compared to your upper arms?
weird looking wrists.
actual condition pain in my hands kept me awake last night. trouble gripping a
pen properly to write.
showing my wrists are disclocated. genetic disorder -genetic specialist.
orthopaedic doctor.
misaligned bones may be trapping a nerve complaining of a sore wrist diagnosed madelungs. As she suffers from a lot of pain and has limited
. Kapanje
procedure? linked to Turners Syndrome pre eclampsia breathing difficulties and the upper back pain, do you think either
quite small in stature dwarfism bilateral madelung's deformity degenerative
changes my bones to shorten it and "shaved" a bit
off the one that sticks up.hassle of always covering
my arms.
hand/wrist surgeon. stunted my
growth (I am 5'2") close in wrists and ankles. limited mobility (not being able to turn to look at a watch,
etc.), prescribed surgery to fix the problem. Pinned together and casted no physical therapy and I have multiple
scars and puffiness bewildered surgeon.
an
inflammatory drug - hereditary condition, pediatric orthos to get x-rayed. So far, my 9 year old
daughter appears my extended family.
both heads of the ulna removed n my dominant
arm. Range of motion has markedly decreased, with much more bony prominence
on underside of my arm. I often have dull aching in the whole joint,
very quick sharp pain, fleeting using the computer mouse for any length of
time. Fatigue sets in very quickly. X-rays deny presence of arthritis, EMGs
deny carpal tunnel and other nerve compression syndromes.
A local orthopedic "hand man" no appreciation of slow
progressive changes in past few years."crooked arms".. told she had rickets. (Boy, was that wrong!)
Leri-Weil Dyschondrosteosis, with pain but none of these seem to make
any difference. Daily tasks like washing, drying hair, washing dishes,
making meals and driving shortened the
outside bone petite side. leg bones appear to be
shaped funny.
"weird" wrist bones she is not as affected as I am, she has the very thick calves
(my fathers sister) (severe or not) we do not all carry the gene or pass that gene
(suarve kapanji) on both arms but my right arm _ in Los Gatos, Calif. performed surgery on my worst
153 but no bones funny structure ( no madelung no genou varum ).
osteotomie.
osteotomy.
wore a wrist brace, playing golf my left wrist began to hurt much worse ulnar knobble on my wrist. The pain is sporadic. left knobble (the bone on top of my wrist) at end of the ulnar is protruding much more and is farther back. My right ulnar knobble is also a bit higher than before but not farther back. I've had protruding ulnar knobbles but never as unusual until now arthritis, osteoporosis or ligament tear or from being in menopause but nothing matched up as close as MWD.
my daughter has inherited the conditiona denervation operating he had moved a
full skeletal x rays
my left wrist is starting to hurt a bit my baby boy does present with LWD
kids with the same condition
metacarpals had fallen lower into the wrist
fraternal great grandmother, Cherokee Indian and German,
freak accident stocky build, consaguinous theory
arm about nearly an inch shorter than the other a CVS testing
and can not walk any more.
I can touch both my wrists with my middle and rings fingers.
within the normal range change /SHOX gene. artrossis unilaterlally, and I am bilateral. arms, legs & buttocks. My upper arms always looked muscly, though they weren't!
arms.
arthritis in both arms Orthopedic
my short stature, available procedures. SHOX gene defect wrist issues.my grandfather father very short
medical advice
children carry the gene.
madelung syndrome, my Dad's Dad had the condition. CVS
forearms are very short and curved, with a prominant wrist bone.
gene in the baby
genou varum but no wrist sign.
gneticien.
mesomelic dysplasia viable diagnosis. have full motion in my wrist
seek medical attention for it a final diagnosis ler-weill syndrome.
ulnar knobble is protruding hyperlaxite of the joint and the genetics behind Madelung's
Madelung's deformity, cousin (who is a fraternal twin) Geneticist
Madelung's,
I have inherited collecting data on this, lifting, opening jars,
my family tree passing it down? radiologist
shortened bone, and motion was slightly different MWD as a birth defect,
ligament.
lower legs bow outward. Madelungs
looked broken
not wear short sleeves for a long time), incestuous origin?
odd "deformity". surgeon just move the tendon of the knee. capping the
pain in both wrists. I had reconstructive surgery on both wrists,
rare condition ft wrist alternates between numbness and pain
damage to the tendon due to years of scrapping against the rough
severe pain in my right arm and moderate pain in my left arm,
short arms & legs, long torso, & stocky
stuck out more than the average persons
surgery and to just learn to live with it.
surgurey for my very short legs,
symptomatic of some genetic disorders small stature with skeletal deformation.
a hematologist, and 3 sports medicine physicians
bobble appearance, on my left arm, medical profession
geneticien in
othopedic or geneticien to have fusion, effect exercise/general use of my wrist,
a proffesseur orthopedic Leri Weills with Madelung diagnosed
ulnar bone as its rubbing on my Radius and casuing a groove and more pain.
ulnar bone.
up with a fracture of my 2nd metacarpal.
x ray about my skeletal and I was _
collagen is
genetic aspect of the deformity denervation proportional to hand and forearm strength,
bone was cut down a
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